"Camp/baggage with rules" Topic

I really like the diorama effect of seeing camp at the back of an army. It lets you use some interesting civilians etc.
Trouble is no need to make unless rule make you.
I play Clash of Empires with fiends and toy around with Basic Impetus solo. So never have put one on. Sometimes I wish I did.
Is it just another expense however?? Thoughts anyone.

Spell check in order I think..Sorry.

DBM has rules for a camp. So does 1st ed DBA.. not sure about later editions of dba.

Both can be found at wrg.me.uk

Thanks
Austin

Generally, it seems that the top-down design big battles rules (e.g. DBX, FOG) have rules for camps and require their presence, whilst the rules that focus on indivual figures (e.g. WAB & "successors") don't.
Given that supply camps were an important feature of many ancient battles, and the sacking of camps could have a significant effect on the outcome, you would think that any set of rules that is designed to represent large ancient / medieval battles should include rules for camps.

It's something I've been pondering recently. My Sword & Spear rules include rules for camps, but they are not compulsory in the rules as they stand. Whilst camps were an important feature in many battles, they were often too far away from the action to be threatened. So maybe they should be optional ? But if they are optional, there needs to be an advantage to having one on the table.
In my rules the loss of a camp means an army morale test, but I'm not sure exactly what advantages having a camp should bring. Some ideas are :
It counts as a unit, which boosts the army break point and provides a command dice (making it easier to activate units).
Without a camp, the amount of bonus dice given to shooting is restricted (bonus shooting dice represent sustained shooting, which is not possible with the facility to resupply units. The presence of a nearby camp should presumably make this more possible).

Or maybe in an equal points game, you can choose to have a camp, and if you do so you get X more points to spend on troops. But the downside is that if the camp is sacked there is a negative outcome.

I suppose what I saying is that it would be nice to have an excuse to create a nice diorama baggage camp.