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willthepiper27 Mar 2014 1:25 p.m. PST

Announcement on their facebook page that the first codes of the British in North America 1860s will be released by end of next week:
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Plus a pretty picture! (for those with fb access)

ACW Gamer27 Mar 2014 3:02 p.m. PST

I am working on an 1861 project. Do you think the British can be converted to Early ACW militia type uniforms?

Captain dEwell27 Mar 2014 4:00 p.m. PST

Good. I shall be doing a Prussian invasion of Britain campaign/Battle of Dorking scenario, etc. Can't wait.

jurgenation Supporting Member of TMP27 Mar 2014 4:10 p.m. PST

Perry makes early civil War in shako

Cheriton27 Mar 2014 4:59 p.m. PST

Cap'n:

Are you on-line at a pub? Are there Morris Dancers ordering the rounds? Is there an historical precedent, I mean beyond your ale-fueled imagination, for this intriguing scenario?

I mean Dorking…?

Speaking of fueling with ale, I have a Premiership Rugby match awaiting me on my DVR, must go…

Cheers,

guinness

Sparker27 Mar 2014 6:19 p.m. PST

You mean you didn't know that Dorking, for the Hohenzollern Dynasty and the Prussian General Staff, represented the acme of Englishness, and thus had to be crushed beneath the steel shod jackboot (several times, actually, to really, really, make the point!)…

In the as yet undiscovered coda to the Schlieffen Plan – the original, non watered down softy 'got a sick note from mater' version, Dorking was actually the target, not Paris. The French capital was merely a red herring, to be mopped at leisure once Dorking had fallen…

Personal logo Nashville Supporting Member of TMP27 Mar 2014 6:20 p.m. PST

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battle of dorking
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We had got over the stress of weariness; our stomachs were full; we felt a natural enthusiasm at the prospect of having so soon to take a part as the real defenders of the country, and we were inspirited at the sight of the large force that was now assembled. Along the slopes which trended off to the rear of our ridge, troops came marching up--volunteers, militia, cavalry, and guns; these, I heard, had come down from the north as far as Leatherhead the night before, and had marched over at daybreak. Long trains, too, began to arrive by the rail through the gap, one after the other, containing militia and volunteers, who moved up to the ridge to the right and left, and took up their position, massed for the most part on the slopes which ran up from, and in rear of, where we stood. We now formed part of an army corps, we were told, consisting of three divisions, but what regiments composed the other two divisions I never heard. All this movement we could distinctly see from our position, for we had hurried over our breakfast, expecting every minute that the battle would begin, and now stood or sat about on the ground near our piled arms. Early in the morning, too, we saw a very long train come along the valley from the direction of Guildford, full of redcoats. It halted at the little station at our feet, and the troops alighted. We could soon make out their bear-skins. They were the Guards, coming to reinforce this part of the line. Leaving a detachment of skirmishers to hold the line of the railway embankment, the main body marched up with a springy step and with the band playing, and drew up across the gap on our left, in prolongation of our line. There appeared to be three battalions of them, for they formed up in that number of columns at short intervals.

Evzone27 Mar 2014 8:57 p.m. PST

Battle of Dorking and Last Stand at Surbiton for me…..looking forward to this range

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Smokey Roan27 Mar 2014 10:51 p.m. PST

I hope there are plenty of casualty figures.

(I guess one could use the casualty figures from his War of 1812 game as proxies for the "1860" invasion?)


:)

Royal Marine27 Mar 2014 11:28 p.m. PST

"Sharpe goes to Canada"

kabrank28 Mar 2014 3:19 a.m. PST

Sharp would be a little old! But his son is a French "Observer" in the Cornwall ACW books.

67thtigers28 Mar 2014 3:56 a.m. PST

I did a lot of research on the British military response to the Trent Crisis. One might write a scenario for these.

However, the simplest way of making a big battle would be to take the Army of the Potomac's disposable force (8 divisions), and match them up against a BEF. The British planned sending 10 divisions, but for fairness in the scenario make it 5 divisions and use an early Crimean orbat, but with some Canadian militia brigades added.

Captain dEwell28 Mar 2014 4:00 a.m. PST

Cheriton,

Yes; Yes; and, Yes.

And there's more …Is there a cold draught pint of Guinness and an empty chair waiting for you at The Claygate and Esher (Ladies) War Game Club? YES, come and join us.

Let me tell you, Dorking, old boy, was the area of the main Prussian thrust towards London and was the site of the London Mobilisation Defences (actually, a bit later that the mid- to late-1860s but hey this is make believe!). It was built along a 70-mile (113-kilometre) stretch of the North Downs from Guildford to the Darenth valley. Thirteen sites were chosen, at Pewley Hill, Henley Grove, Denbies, Box Hill [Dorking], Betchworth, Reigate, East Merstham, Fosterdown, Woldingham, Betsoms Hill, Halstead, Farningham and (to the north of London) North Weald.

In my mind, the Prussians with the support of the defeated French and its fleet, land on the south coast, have battle at Dorking and Surbiton, intercept a Royal convoy to Windsor and capture Queen Vic, and then invest London. A bit like the Franco-Prussian War experience, I believe.

Britain ceeds the Isle of Wight and Portsmouth and Dover to the Prussian and loses its overseas colonies in Singapore and Hong Kong to France, and France loses Alsace and Lorraine to Prussian. The defeated pay a lot of money to the Prussians and all is well until …

No one would have believed in the last years of the nineteenth century that this world was being watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than man's and yet as mortal as his own; that as men busied themselves about their various concerns they were scrutinised and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water … DAN-DER-DAN-DAN!! DAN-DER-DAN-DAN!!

Yup, I'm off on one…

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Enjoy

Edwulf31 Mar 2014 11:33 p.m. PST

Hello gents.

Wondering what Canadian regiments, militia or regular would have existed around this time? My google searches aren't helpful.

Captain dEwell01 Apr 2014 3:24 a.m. PST

TMP link

With respect to Glengarry5

Edwulf01 Apr 2014 7:24 a.m. PST

Excellent!

Good job lads!

67thtigers01 Apr 2014 1:29 p.m. PST

There was no regular Canadian army at the time. The 100th Regiment (Royal Canadians) and the Royal Canadian Rifles (including by 1860 the former Newfoundland Regiment) were British regiments recruited in Canada. The 100th was on general service, and were stationed as part of Lt Gen Codrington's Division in Gibraltar and Lt Gen Le Marchant's Division in Malta during the ACW period.

The RCR manned the frontier posts, and during the ACW did a lot of work guarding the American frontier against attempts to recruit British soldiers.

A long time ago I wrote this:

The Canadian Militia

The Canadian government had not exactly been zealous in providing for their own defence, but they were not exactly defenceless either. Canada had last defended her borders from filibustering US militia 20 years earlier, and Canadian Militia had won every engagement with the US, during this period they (Canada and the Maritimes) placed roughly 65,000 men on active service. It was these conflicts (the Patriote Rebellion, and Aroostook War) that informed British estimates of Canadian capability.

While there has been a Canadian Militia since Europeans first settled that part of America, the modern Canadian Militia was redefined by the 1846 and 1855 Militia Acts. The first act turned the Sedentary Militia into a more usable organisation, by slimming it down and no longer fining lack of attendance at militia drill. The objective of this act was to create a force of 40,000 men ready for immediate use.

The 1855 Act created an Active Militia. These were paid for upto 28 days a year, and were limited to 5,000 men (ORs), although more men enlisted than was allowed for, leading to the creation of the unpaid class B units.

The Active Militia initially comprised 16 Troops of Cavalry (3 offrs, 50 men and 53 horses ea), 10 field artillery batteries (4 offrs, 71 men and 58 horses, equipped with 4 guns), and 77 companies of infantry or foot artillery (3 offrs and 70 men). It had been slightly augmented. The class B was increased by the vast numbers of volunteers raised during the Trent Crisis.

The Sedentary Militia in 1858 comprised ca 250,000 men:


1st Class

2nd Class

Reserve

UC

31157

51435

33340

LC

51086

56062

33298

Total

82243

107497

66638

Despite it's name, the Sedentary Militia was a volunteer force, and had been since the 1846 Militia Act (when all compulsion to join the militia was dropped). The 1st class represented unmarried men under 40, the 2nd class married men and men with dependents under 40, and the Reserve Militia being the over 40's. Battalions were purely based on geography, and on mobilisation, each militia regiment (100 thereof) were expected to provide a service battalion (or in the case of the very small regiments contribute coys to neighbouring county Bns). The service battalions were based on the flank companies, who unlike the bulk of the militia (who were only required to train 1 day a year) trained 6 days a month. The flank companies were approximately 20% of the militia, or approximately 38,000 men. A further reorganisation occurred in 1864, separating the flank coys as the Non-Permanent Active Militia, who were amalgamated in 1866 with the remainder of the Volunteer Militia.

On 20th December 1861, GOC North America ordered a limited mobilisation of 38,000 rank and file (i.e. the flank coys), to be found from volunteers only for field service, to be ready to march within 14 days, the Trent Crisis abated before this period was up, but over 14,000 Militia (about 190 coys) had mustered into service within 6 days, when the order was recinded. This mobilisation was roughly half the force the Canadian government expected to be able to field.

The arming and equipping of the militia was done post haste. Over 100,000 stands of modern rifles were shipped to the Canadian Militia during December 1861, along with 15 million rounds of ammunition, 18 Armstrong Rifles, and considerable quantities of older ordnance (9 pdrs withdrawn from Regular service etc.), and their attendant equipment and ammunition. More was due every day (a typical British vessel used as a trooper would usually carry a few tens of thousands stand of arms, ammunition, a battery or two of guns etc. for the militia)

The flank companies, active militia, and a small portion of the volunteer militia were expected to form part of a field army, along with the British regulars, this force totalled maybe 50,000 ORs. The remaining volunteers (about 25,000 in late Dec 61), and the remaining militiamen (who were never called out, and so numbers are difficult to estimate, but based on history maybe 30,000 would mobilise) were expected to man defensive works etc.

The remaining militiamen and the reserve militia were to form Home Guards, based on the Franc-Tireur concept. They would stay home, but be supplied weapons by the government and expected to skirmish with any invading detachments etc.

The men mentioned above to not include the militias of the Maritime Provinces. At their last mobilisation, 20 years earlier (Aroostook Crisis), New Brunswick put 8,000 into the field and Nova Scotia put 25,000 into the field. Despite increases in populations, the size of the militia had remained about the same (although in the two years after the Trent crisis the size of the militia (who like Canada were volunteers) doubled). In addition there was a small active militia force, but unlike Canada these were directly integrated into the militia at large. The Maritime experience was that they could (and had) call up the entire militia and expect it to turn out and fight.

67thtigers01 Apr 2014 1:44 p.m. PST

A long time ago I put this together, using post-Confederation numberings for Canadian militia units for convenience, which of course is ahistorical, but indicative:


Approximate British North America "Orbat" in mid-1863

In the following it is important to note that only the 1-22nd Canadian Volunteer Battalions exist in 1863 as battalions. The other units list do exist, but in different forms. The higher numbered battalions exist as collections of un-regimented companies, in the Militia of the provinces of New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island (and the future province of Manitoba), and as the active "flank companies" of the regular militia. Their numberings do not exist in 1863 (especially in the cases of Nova Scotia and New Brunswick, who have a different scheme), but have been preserved here for ease of use.

Upper Canada

London District

Regular Force: 63rd Foot (Lt Col William Frederick Carter), Royal Canadian Rifles (main body), 18th Company RE, F/4th Field Brigade RA

Military District No. 4 (Northumberland, Durham etc.)
Inf: 40th Bn, 45th Bn, 46th Bn and 57th Bn
Cav: Northumberland and Durham Cavalry Sqn
Arty: Cobourg Bty and Port Hope Bty

Military District No. 6 (Perth, Wellington etc.)
Inf: 28th Bn, 29th Bn, 30th Bn, 31st Bn, 32nd Bn and 33rd Bn

Military District No. 8 (London)
Inf: 7th Bn, 25th Bn, 26th Bn, 37th Bn and 38th Bn
Cav: St. Thomas and London Cavalry Squadron, Burford Cavalry Troop
Arty: London Field Battery

Military District No. 9 (Kent and Essex)
Inf: 23rd Bn, 24th Bn and 27th Bn
Arty: 2 coys of the above infantry bns are trained as arty

Hamilton District

Regular Force: 1st Bn, Rifle Brigade (Lt Col Alex, Lord Russell) and G/4th Field Brigade RA

Military District No. 7 (Hamilton)
Inf: 13th Bn, 19th Bn, 20th Bn, 37th Bn and 44th Bn
Cav: St. Catherine's and Grimsby Cavalry Squadron
Arty: Hamilton Field Battery, Port Colborne Field Battery and St. Catherine's Battery
Other: Hamilton Naval Company

Toronto District

Regular Force: 30th Foot (Lt Col Thomas Henry Pakenham), E/4th Field Brigade RA and 5/10th Heavy Brigade RA

Military District No. 5 (York county etc. excepting Toronto City)
Inf: 12th Bn, 34th Bn, 35th Bn and 36th Bn
Cav: York Cavalry Sqn, Barrie Mounted Infantry Company

Military District No. 10 (Toronto)
Inf: 2nd Bn and 10th Bn
Arty: Toronto Field Battery, Toronto Garrison Battery and Toronto Arty Bn (6 coys)

Kingston District

Regular Force: 62nd Foot (Lt Col William Lenox Ingall), Royal Canadian Rifles (det), 4/10th Brigade RA and 6/10th Brigade RA

Military District No. 1 (Ottawa)
Inf: Civil Service Rifles, 18th Bn and 43rd Bn
Arty: Ottawa Field Battery, Ottawa Arty Bn (4 btys), Prescott Arty Bn (4 btys)

Military District No. 2 (Glengarry etc.)
Inf: 41st Bn, 42nd Bn and 56th Bn

Military District No. 3 (Kingston)
Inf: 14th Bn, 15th Bn, 16th Bn, 47th Bn, 48th Bn and 49th Bn
Cav: Frontenac Cavalry Sqn, Napanee Cavalry Troop
Arty: Kingston Field Battery, Napanee Battery

Lower Canada

Montreal District

Regular Force: Guards Brigade (Maj-Gen Frederick, Lord Paulet) of 1/Grenadier Guards (Maj and Col Edward Wynard) and 2/Scots Fusilier Guards (Maj and Col John Hamilton Elphinstone Dalrymple), 1/16th Foot (Lt Col George John Peacocke), 47th Foot (Lt Col Thomas Conyngham Kelly), 15th Company RE, D/4th Field Brigade RA, H/4th Field Brigade RA, HQ 10th Brigade RA, 4x Batteries of 10th Brigade RA and 3rd Bn, Military Train (HQ 7th Brigade RA, 5/7th Brigade RA and 6/7th Brigade RA are in the middle of returning to the UK)

Military District No. 8 (Three Rivers)
Inf: 70th Bn, 83rd Bn and 86th Bn

Military District No. 9 (Two Mountains)
Inf: 9th Bn and 11th Bn

Military District No. 10 (Sherbrooke)
Inf: 52nd Bn, 53rd Bn, 54th Bn, 55th Bn, 58th Bn, 60th Bn, 79th Bn and 87th Bn
Cav: Sherbrooke Cavalry Troop
Arty: Sherbrooke Battery

Military District No. 11 (Montreal)
Inf: 1st Bn, 3rd Bn, 4th Bn, 5th Bn, 65th Bn and 81st Bn
Cav: Montreal Cavalry Squadron
Arty: Montreal Field Battery and Montreal Artillery Battalion (6 btys)

Quebec District

Regular Force: 1/17th Foot (Lt Col William Gordon), 4/60th Rifles (Lt Col Robert Hawley) and 1x battery of 10th Brigade RA

Military District No. 1
Inf: Provisional Bn (formed from various rifle coys on the islands etc.)

Military District No. 2
Inf: 61st Bn, 88th Bn, 89th Bn and 92nd Bn

Military District No. 3
None

Military District No. 4
Inf: 80th Bn

Military District No. 5
Inf: 84th Bn

Military District No. 6 (Richelieu)
Inf: 21st Bn, 50th Bn, 51st Bn, 64th Bn and 76th Bn

Military District No. 7 (Quebec City)
Inf: 8th Bn, 9th Bn and 81st Bn
Cav: Quebec Cavalry Squadron
Arty: Quebec Field Battery and Quebec Artillery Battalion (4 btys)

New Brunswick

Regular Force: 1/15th Foot (Lt Col John Amber Cole), 2x Batteries of 15th Brigade RA?
Inf: 62nd Bn, 67th Bn, 71st Bn, 73rd Bn and 74th Bn
Cav: New Brunswick Yeomanry
Arty: 3x Field Batteries (12 field guns)

Nova Scotia

Regular Force: 2/16th (Lt Col Oliver Langley), 2/17th (Lt Col Alexander McKinstrey), 4th Coy RE, A/8th Field Brigade RA, HQ 15th Brigade RA, 5/15th Brigade RA, 6/15th Brigade RA and 7/15th Brigade RA and 8/15th Brigade RA
Inf: 63rd Bn, 66th Bn, 68th Bn, 69th Bn, 72nd Bn, 75th Bn, 77th Bn, 78th Bn, 93rd Bn and 94th Bn
Arty: Halifax Field Battery, Halifax Artillery Battalion (16 field guns)

Prince Edward Island

Inf: 82nd Bn

Newfoundland

Regular Force: 8/10th Brigade RA, 2 coys Royal Canadian Regiment (the former Royal Newfoundland Companies)

"Manitoba"

Inf: 90th Bn, 91st Bn and 95th Bn


Bermuda
39th Foot, 5th Company RE, 34th Company RE and HQ and 2x Batteries of 15th Brigade RA

Edwulf04 Apr 2014 4:33 a.m. PST

Nice one.

put my first order in for a three battalion Brigade.

Brummie Lad04 Apr 2014 1:47 p.m. PST

Awesome info 67th! Thanks!

67thtigers07 Apr 2014 10:09 a.m. PST

A little stab at forming brigades:


1st Guards Brigade (Maj Gen Lord Frederick Paulet; 1/Grenadier Gds and 3/ Grenadier Gds)
2nd Guards Brigade (Maj Gen Lindsay; 1/Coldstream Gds and 2/ Scots Fusilier Gds)


1. Doyle's Brigade (Maj Gen Doyle; 1/15th, 2/16th and 2/17th) – already at Halifax, NS
2. Sutton's Brigade (Brig Gen William Sutton; 1/10th, 2/25th and 96th) – from Shorncliffe
3. Garvock's Brigade (Brig Gen John Garvock; 1/3rd, 59th, 64th) – from Dover and London
4. Russell's Brigade (Maj Gen David Russell; 30th, 47th and 1/Rifle Brigade) – sent to Canada Summer '61
5. Rumley's Brigade (Maj Gen Randall Rumley; 1/16th, 1/17th and 4/60th Rifles) – sent to Canada from NS Dec '61
6. William Paulet's Brigade (Maj Gen Lord William Paulet ; 1/24th, 49th and 2/60th Rifles) – from Portsmouth
7. Gordon's Brigade (Brig Gen The Hon. Alexander Gordon; 2/19th, 58th and 87th) – from the Curragh
8. Hemphill's Brigade (Maj Gen AT Hemphill; 1/11th, 2/21st and 45th) – from Dublin
9. Brooke Talylor's Brigade (Maj Gen Brooke Taylor; 2/1st, 29th and 61st) – from Aldershot
10. Brown's Brigade (Brig Gen WG Brown; 1/8th, 53rd and 78th) – from Aldershot
11. Craufurd's Brigade (Maj Gen JR Craufurd; 2/20th, 1/60th Rifles and 84th) – from Aldershot
12. Cameron's Brigade (Maj Gen David Cameron; 55th, 62nd and 63rd) – from NS and Jersy
13. Bloomfield's Brigade (Maj Gen HK Bloomfield; 2/12th, 36th and 86th) – from Dublin, Cork and Kilkenny
14. Walker's Brigade (Maj Gen EWF Walker; 2/1st, 26th and 76th) – from Scotland and Manchester
15. Walpole's Brigade (Maj Gen Sir Robert Walpole; 2/2nd Queen's, 2/7th Fusiliers and 2/21st Fusiliers)
16. Bates' Brigade (Brig Gen Henry Bates; 2/4th, 1/9th and 1/22nd)

Edwulf08 Apr 2014 7:36 a.m. PST

I toyed with my own. I did the same and put the guards together. Tried to lump the pre reinforced units together too.
I'm definitely doing the 45th, and I wanted to do the 11th… So Henpills brigade will be a good call.

67thtigers08 Apr 2014 7:48 a.m. PST

Well, put an orbat using Volley and Bayonet together for a 5 Corps British Army in NA (regulars) only. The Corps are likely based at Toronto, Kingston, Montreal, Quebec and Halifax.

British Army of Canada – May 1862

FM The Duke of Cambridge (AC)

Army Artillery Reserve
Maj Gen Richard Dacres (DC)
1st Siege Battalion (M6, Rifled Siege) OO
2nd Siege Battalion (M6, Rifled Siege) OO
3rd Siege Battalion (M6, Rifled Siege) OO
4th Siege Battalion (M6, Rifled Siege) OO
5th Siege Battalion (M6, Rifled Siege) OO

1st Army Corps
Lt Gen Sir William J Codrington (CC)

1st (Guards) Infantry Division
Lt Gen (Local) JR Craufurd (DC)
1st Brigade (M6, Shock, SS, RM(T), fully skirmishers) OOOOO
(Maj Gen Lord Frederick Paulet; 1/Grenadier Gds and 3/ Grenadier Gds)
2nd Brigade (M6, Shock, SS, RM(T), fully skirmishers) OOOOO
(Maj Gen Lindsay; 1/Coldstream Gds and 2/ Scots Fusilier Gds)

2nd Infantry Division (DC)
Lt Gen (Local) William Fenwick Williams
1st Brigade (M6, Shock, SS, RM(T), fully skirmishers) OOOOOO
(Maj Gen David Russell; 30th, 47th and 1/Rifle Brigade)
2nd Brigade (M6, Shock, SS, RM(T), fully skirmishers) OOOOOO
(Maj Gen Randall Rumley; 1/16th, 1/17th and 4/60th Rifles)

1st Cavalry Brigade (M6, Heavy, Shock, BLC) OOO
(Maj Gen Lawrenson; Household Cavalry Regiment, 5th DG and 5th L)

1st Corps Artillery
1st Division Battalion (M6, Rifled Heavy) OO
2nd Division Battalion (M6, Rifled Heavy) OO
Corps Reserve Battalion (M6, Rifled Heavy) OO
1st Horse Battalion (M6, Rifled Field) OO


2nd Army Corps
Lt Gen Pennefather (CC)

1st Division
Maj Gen Brooke Taylor (DC)
1st Brigade (M6, Shock, SS, RM(T), fully skirmishers) OOOOOO
(Maj Gen George TC Napier; 2/1st, 29th and 61st) – from Aldershot
2nd Brigade (M6, Shock, SS, RM(T), fully skirmishers) OOOOOO
(Brig Gen WG Brown; 1/8th, 53rd and 78th) – from Aldershot

2nd Division
Maj Gen the Hon. AA Dalzel (DC)
1st Brigade (M6, Shock, SS, RM(T), fully skirmishers) OOOOOO
(Maj Gen; 2/20th, 1/60th Rifles and 84th) – from Aldershot
2nd Brigade (M6, Shock, SS, RM(T), fully skirmishers) OOOOOO
(4/60th Rifles, 62nd and 63rd)

2nd Cavalry Brigade (M6, Shock, Lancers, BLC) OOO
(Maj Gen Lord Paget; 9th L, 12th L and 16th L)

2nd Corps Artillery
1st Division Battalion (M6, Rifled Heavy) OO
2nd Division Battalion (M6, Rifled Heavy) OO
Corps Reserve Battalion (M6, Rifled Heavy) OO
2nd Horse Battalion (M6, Rifled Field) OO


3rd Army Corps
Lt Gen George Brown (CC)

1st Division
Maj Gen Hutchinson (DC)
1st Brigade (M6, Shock, SS, RM(T), fully skirmishers) OOOOOO
(Maj Gen Lord William Paulet ; 1/24th, 49th and 2/60th Rifles) – from Portsmouth
2nd Brigade (M6, Shock, SS, RM(T), fully skirmishers) OOOOOO
(Maj Gen WN Hutchinson; 32nd, 37th and 73rd) – from Plymouth

2nd Division
Maj Gen CW Ridley (DC)
1st Brigade (M6, Shock, SS, RM(T), fully skirmishers) OOOOOO
(Brig Gen The Hon. Alexander Gordon; 2/19th, 58th and 87th) – from the Curragh
2nd Brigade (M6, Shock, SS, RM(T), fully skirmishers) OOOOOO
(Maj Gen AT Hemphill; 1/11th, 2/21st and 45th) – from Dublin

3rd Cavalry Brigade (M6, Heavy, Shock, BLC)
(Brig Gen GW Key; 4th DG, 11 H and 15 H)

3rd Corps Artillery
1st Division Battalion (M6, Rifled Heavy) OO
2nd Division Battalion (M6, Rifled Heavy) OO
Corps Reserve Battalion (M6, Rifled Heavy) OO
3rd Horse Battalion (M6, Rifled Field) OO

4th Army Corps
Lt Gen (Local) Sir James Yorke Scarlett (CC)

1st Division
Maj Gen Sir George Buller (DC)
1st Brigade (M6, Shock, SS, RM(T), fully skirmishers) OOOOOO
(Maj Gen Sir Robert Walpole; 2/2nd Queen's, 2/7th Fusiliers and 2/21st Fusiliers)
2nd Brigade (M6, Shock, SS, RM(T), fully skirmishers) OOOOOO
(Brig Gen Atherley; 2/4th, 1/9th and 1/22nd)

2nd Division
Maj Gen Sir J Gaspard le Marchant (DC)
1st Brigade (M6, Shock, SS, RM(T), fully skirmishers) OOOOOO
(Maj Gen HK Bloomfield; 2/12th, 36th and 86th) – from Dublin, Cork and Kilkenny
2nd Brigade (M6, Shock, SS, RM(T), fully skirmishers) OOOOOO
(Maj Gen EWF Walker; 2/1st, 26th and 76th) – from Scotland and Manchester

4th Corps Artillery
1st Division Battalion (M6, Rifled Heavy) OO
2nd Division Battalion (M6, Rifled Heavy) OO
Corps Reserve Battalion (M6, Rifled Heavy) OO
4th Horse Battalion (M6, Rifled Field) OO


5th Army Corps (Army of the Maritimes)
Lt Gen Sir George Augustus Wetherall (CC)

1st Infantry Division
Maj Gen Hastings Doyle (DC)
1st Brigade (M6, Shock, SS, RM(T), fully skirmishers) OOOOOO
(Brig Gen Henry Bates; 1/15th, 2/16th and 2/17th) – already at Halifax, NS
2nd Brigade (M6, Shock, SS, RM(T), fully skirmishers) OOOOOO
(Brig Gen William Sutton; 1/10th, 2/25th and 96th) – from Shorncliffe

2nd Infantry Division
Maj Gen Sir Richard Airey (DC)
1st Brigade (M6, Shock, SS, RM(T), fully skirmishers) OOOOOO
(Brig Gen John Garvock; 1/3rd, 59th, 64th) – from Dover and London
2nd (Royal Marine) Brigade (M6, Shock, SS, RM(T), fully skirmishers) OOOOOO
(Maj Gen Alexander Anderson; 1st, 2nd and 3rd Battalions of Royal Marine Light Infantry)

5th Cavalry Brigade
(Brig Gen John C Hope Gisbone; 4th H, 14th H and 18th H)

5th Corps Artillery
1st Division Battalion (M6, Rifled Heavy) OO
2nd Division Battalion (M6, Rifled Heavy) OO
Corps Reserve Battalion (M6, Rifled Heavy) OO
2nd Horse Battalion (M6, Rifled Field) OO

Notes on British vs American Troops

The British regulars had a very high standard of musketry by European or American standard. The British regular infantry are all counted as sharpshooters, are always are considered to have +1 for reinforcing skirmishers, and have a close range of 4" and a long range of 8". They may elect to go prone, and may break down completely to skirmish stands if required. Generally American infantry of both sides should be rated as poor musketry, and not have reinforcing skirmishers unless they have formed such detachments. Arguably they should also be rated to carry percussion muskets (same dice as RM, but in 2" range) since no truly long ranged shooting seems to have occurred in general battles.

Setting the morale at 6 assumes that normal trained American units (both sides) are 4. A lot of scenarios rate American units at M5 or even M6 (up with picked elites!). In this case rate all British units as M7.

Canadian units should be rated essentially identically to American ones.

Yes, this seems unfair. How the hell do you fight that? With lots of entrenchment, lots of artillery and never being the attacker… Remember, the invading Union forces probably have a lot more men and guns.

Smokey Roan08 Apr 2014 1:57 p.m. PST

Sir Garnet was hanging around North America for a bit during the ACW. Wouldn't hurt to make him your commander?

67thtigers08 Apr 2014 3:49 p.m. PST

Wolseley was on the staff of William's Division as assistant adjutant-general. The army list for 1862 includes 14 field officers on special service, who are essentially the brigadiers for 10 Canadian infantry brigades, 2 cavalry and 2 artillery brigades. Wolseley certainly is in a position to wangle a brigade of Canadians….

kabrank09 Apr 2014 8:58 a.m. PST

Figures could also be useful for the British getting involved in the Austro-Prussian war if this went on longer!

Cheriton10 Apr 2014 4:55 p.m. PST

Cap'n:

With respect to Glengarry5

My, you do have an energetic and informed following evidenced by this thread and the one you reference above. Such enthusiasm and vigor is, sadly, somewhat thin on the ground hereabouts.

Our Norfolk friends who have taught at our university the last 10 years (Aug to May each year, spending the summers at home) have been urging us to repair to Hindringham near them and forsake the Golden West of the US. I wonder…evil grin

Cheers, and a round for these enthusiasts on both threads,

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