"ommitions by Perry nNapoleonics" Topic

The Perry's are making a fantastic collection of Napoleonics (dwarfstates is the best example).Well under way to be the ultimate Nappy collection. And why are we not surprised ?
But I am missing some relevant pieces to this great endeavour right away. Especially where it comes to command sets.
What do I miss ?
Horses without riders, who wants to buy a set in order to only use the horses for a vignette and dump those beautifull riders ? One set would do the trick. Why not include a standing horse or two in the pastic sets for ex.?
Lots of division commanders but not enough generic battalion generals. The feathers on the hats were shorter and not easy to file off to right size.
Generic ADC's
For the Russians : no Generals nor ADC's or staff peronel on horses, this goes also for the Austrians and Prussians.
This is not trivial. Whatever rules you use , you will always need command vignettes. And what fun to make a good command vignette for your "on the field" generals ?
The Perry figures are special. They go for anatomically as correct as possible figures, wich make them difficult to mix with other manufacturers (except Foundry Perry's but there the same problems subsists).
I do not think the twins read the Miniature Page (wich they should), but I just wanted to let myself go on what I think.
I am Belgian so give me some slack on my English.

Your English is just fine and you make some very good points. Maybe you can e mail the Perry's and politely make your point.

I do not think the twins read the Miniature Page (which they should)

Ah, but they do!

With Waterloo 200 just around the corner , I am really hope they will release some British ADCs both infantry & cavalry , & some cavalry commanders . What would be great is if they could do key personalities such as Sgt Ewart or defenders of Hougoumont etc . Well I can dream !

Good points, and hopefully all will be revealed in due course. Agree, would love some "defender" poses for fighting in built up areas, including sieges and Waterloo as welly1815 suggests.

and Gendarmes d'Elite of course!

and better (metal) Carabiniers a Cheval…..the plastic heads for carabiniers are not as good as the cuirassiers'.

British ADCs definitely.

Guard foot artillery in overcoats.

Artillery drivers in cloaks and covered shakos.

Perry figures mix well with Westfalia's expanding range and with Calpe (whom I have only just "discovered" with my first ever order….brilliant quality)

For Retreat from Moscow 1812
One can already make the mother of all vignettes/games with their existing line, yet, I still would like to see:

Frozen casualties (in greatcoats too) – French/allied especially?

Russian Jaegers in greatcoat skirmishing

Mounted Cavalry in cloaks and cold weather gear. French/allied and Russian

Company level command elements in Greatcoats

Character leader figs:

Denis Davydov – Russian officer in charge of many successful guerrilla operations

Count Platov in winter dress

These aren't so much omissions as a wish list.

The biggest omissions from the Perry Russian lines:

1. Horse Artillery Crew – not even for Wargames Foundry, 20-odd years ago, did these get done . . . and we still need them.
2. Russian Uhlans – are not the same as Polish, Austrian, Prussian, etc., so no easy conversions are available.

Fixing those two would make Russian 28mm enthusiasts truly happy!

French legere pre-1812, to go with their excellent French line for that same period (packs 156-163).

Command set for the Highland Light Infantry.

British 28th regiment – still wearing the stovepipe at Waterloo (with a backbadge unique to the 28th), and French backpacks!

Regular Prussian infantry that isn't plastic!

Mserafin. Two great suggestions. (HLI and 28th).

Prussian infantry that is not plastic. (I'd add Carabiniers a Cheval ditto, to the standard of their metal cuirassiers.)

Commercially though, what would be the point for them to further tackle the Prussian army, unless other than 1815 I guess? Calpe offer enough to keep you going for months and the market may be saturated. Westfalia are tackling the rarities for Blucher's lads. Even greater variety would be nice of course….and this is another wish list. These Perry minor German states are brilliant castings…I just hope they find a steady market though

We must keep this going. Someone may listen………

Commercially though, what would be the point for them to further tackle the Prussian army, unless other than 1815 I guess? Calpe offer enough to keep you going for months and the market may be saturated. Westfalia are tackling the rarities for Blucher's lads. Even greater variety would be nice of course….and this is another wish list. These Perry minor German states are brilliant castings…I just hope they find a steady market though

My desire for metal Prussians is entirely based upon my own personal preference for metal figures over plastic. I painted up a bunch of Perry plastic Prussians and felt that the medium just doesn't do justice to the Perry's sculpting skills. I had much more fun painting the metal fusilier skirmish pack they make.

As to commercial viability, I would suggest that French Legere, being a basic troop type, would generate pretty good return on investment. It gives French players something that doesn't look like line, and it can be used for any number of interesting units like the Irish Legion. Ideally give me the same packs as the line series I referenced above.

But not in plastic, please!

Try a few figures from Calpe if you want Prussians in metal….I spent the afternoon painting nothing but grey overalls for a mixed bunch of Perry, Calpe (majority) and Westfalia figures for "The Road to Plancenoit". This is going to take months…….

I am a huge Perry fan. I bought a box of Plastic Prussians but will never use them. Great for wargames no doubt and all you could ask for the medium and the price. I would never, ever, criticise the Perrys (not much anyway, other than Guard Dragoons and Grenadiers a Cheval). My lads were weaned on LOTR and then they taught me about shading and washes, after 30 years out of Napoleonics.

But let's just say…..order a half dozen Calpe figures if you want sharp casting without need for filing/sanding/removing ejection pins etc. I got my first ever last week and was amazed by the quality.

The photos on the website do not do justice to the mouldings I think.

and to BelgianRay, great message thread and, if my French or Flemish is up to your standard of English, next week, 15 miles south of Brussels, walking Wavre to Plancenoit, ……I'll get by!

I like the Perrys plastic Prussians a lot and find them superior to any other range of 28 mm figures – even in metal.

They are the best plastic infantry I have come across, I would admit. Funny how cavalry seem to come out better in plastic, with Perrys. Hussars, whether French or British (and easily become Prussian with head swap and a little work on the sheepskin)are really sharply moulded. Dragoons have some excellent figures and even cuirassiers/carabiniers are almost of their metals equivalent standard.

My wish would be more plastic anything for the conversion potential. I have the ACW cavalry, the French hussar cylindrical skakos, the Perry Dragons all waiting to be chopped up and stuck together to become 2e Eclaireurs….but have to finish that Prussian diorama and any money Perrys suddenly bring out the 2e Ec (or Gendarmes d'Elite, far more importantly)