| Architectus Militaria | 20 Mar 2014 8:47 a.m. PST |
Hi. A couple of questions regarding the above. Does anyone have references for the 'flags' carried by them? Did they carry two flags or one? Did the musicians have reversed colours in a similar style to the British. Thank you in advance for any information! |
| John the OFM | 20 Mar 2014 9:18 a.m. PST |
I have always believed that Loyalist regiments would be "more British than the British", and would follow all the rules for "normal" line regiments.
BTW, I would count deLancey's Brigade as equivalent in all respects to a multi battalion regiment.
DeLancey's was recruited and employed (usually) as a line unit, so I assume they would have colours. I gave my 1st battalion a full stand of colours. The design for the shield was similar to that of the Queen's Rangers.
I substituted the wording in the shield DelLancey's Bde 1st Bn Since they have blue facings, I would NOT reverse the colors for musicians. |
| John the OFM | 20 Mar 2014 10:32 a.m. PST |
Ooops. Too late to edit.
"deLancey" of course. NOT "delLancey".
And the Regimental Colour is of course blue with the Union in the corner and the same shield. |
| vtsaogames | 21 Mar 2014 1:11 p.m. PST |
Hmm, I live a short walk from DeLancey Street. Yes, that DeLancey. Another street, Division, was the dividing line between the DeLancey and the Rutgers estates. Rutgers was a Whig and had to flee to New Jersey when Howe took NYC. Crown forces trashed the estate. |
| Architectus Militaria | 22 Mar 2014 11:05 a.m. PST |
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| Mr Martyn | 22 Mar 2014 3:01 p.m. PST |
Hi John Re the musician's coat – wasn't it just the 'Royal' regiments that didn't reverse the musician's coats? I know Royal regiments had blue facings,but I thought the non-reversal of the coat was due to their 'Royal' status, rather than the fact they had blue facings. Would be interested to hear other people's thoughts on this; I painted the musician of my blue-faced loyalist regiment with a reversed coat, on the basis that it wasn't a 'Royal' regiment. |
| John the OFM | 22 Mar 2014 3:27 p.m. PST |
On the grounds of the Loyalists being "more British than the Brtih", I o0uld go by the ruels for B;ue facings in the 1768 warrant. I am [pretty sure is says "blue" rather than "Royal".
In any event, the blue facing Loyalists were considered to have the King's favor, and considered themselves "honorary Royal".  |
| Supercilius Maximus | 30 Mar 2014 11:48 p.m. PST |
Not all Loyalist units with royal titles had blue facings – for example, the King's American Regiment had olive green; the Queen's Loyal Rangers, aka Peters' Corps, also had green (and I think the King's Loyal Rangers did, too). |
| 95thRegt | 05 Apr 2014 7:50 p.m. PST |
I used to reenact DeLanceys back in the 90's. We wore red faced blue,which was only worn AFTER 1782 apparently. The more common uniform would be red faced green. There isn't any records of Loyalist regts getting bearskin caps for their musicians,or record of musicians coats being laced. That being said,it doesn't mean they weren't. Records for Loyalist units are scarce to non existent in most cases unfortunately. Bob C. |
| bgbboogie | 05 Apr 2014 10:57 p.m. PST |
I would be surprised if the regiment used a blue flag, more likely green or yellow as the Kings Coloured was normally presented to the regiment by the king. I can not see protocol being ignored in this case, I hope I'm wrong but well research will prove it either way. |
| historygamer | 11 Apr 2014 1:24 p.m. PST |
Have you contacted any of the re-enactment groups that portray this unit? They usually love sharing info. |
| epturner | 13 Apr 2014 5:14 p.m. PST |
Be careful of the pimp hats…
Eric |
| John the OFM | 13 Apr 2014 7:09 p.m. PST |
They usually love sharing info. Some of it might even be accurate! |
