"Austrian Stabs Dragoon Regiment" Topic

I understand that the above unit was raised before each campaign and took responsibility for various escort duties. I would be grateful, however, if anyone has any information on the dates the unit was raised and disbanded ?

Many thanks for any help you can give.

Phil

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It was raised Spring 1758 as an exclusive general staff supporting unit. It never served as a fighting unit.

It never served as a fighting unit.

Major Bumsore's link indicates that the Stabsdragoner served at at Maxen in July 1759… were they involved in any fighting there?

Thanks chaps. I must admit that I've seen the SYW Project entry but understand that the unit may have been raised during other, later, campaigns.

I don't suppose anyone has any details ?

Cheers,

Phil

The regiment was formed in 1758 from men drawn from other regiments. 4 eskadrons of 112 men.

commandants were
1758 Oberstlieutenant Pantosch
1760 oberstlieutenant Friedrich, Freiherr von Zeschwitz
1761 Major Carl, Freiherr von Enzenberg.

inhabers were Franz Moritz, Graf Lacy and later Joseph, Graf Siskovics.

disbanded late 1762

apparently it did see action but in what capacity not sure at the moment.
distinguished at Maxen 1759, Dresden and Kunzendorf 1760 and other unnamed smaller actions.
from Wrede vol B2 pg.938

"Austrian Stabs Dragoon Regiment"

wow, that's one brave austrian!!!

haha very good

yes the regiment was reformed for later wars, sometimes regional variations organised differently, is that what you meant?

1778-79, 1779-90, 1788-90, 1790-1801, 1794-99 etc

There was also a stabs eskadron formed late in the war 1762 under a Rittmeister Paal, but possibly too late to do much.

Duffy in "By the Force of Arms" states that "unlike the Staff Infantry the regiment was in frequent contact with the enemy". Indeed the total losses of the regiment were 728 of which 43 KIA and 370 POW. For instance at Torgau the regiment was in Ried corp and was cut off in the final stages of the battle: it was used also in reconnaissance duties and altogether it seems more battleworthy than the Staff Infantry.

As far as Napoleonic wars are concerned, a Staff Dragoon regiment was present with Alvinczy at Rivoli, January 14 1797.

Thanks chaps.

GB. Yes, I have lots of spare time on my hands and have an interest in Regimental lineage (a dangerous combination). I'm looking at the Austro-Hungarian Empire at the present and trying to establish when the Staff Dragoon Regiment was formed / disbanded. There is limited information but they appear to have been formed before each campaign and then disbanded soon afterwards. Just trying to find out when this happened.

The dates you mention – I assume these are formation / disbandment ?

HGA – I like it. That kept me amused for the day !

Many thanks for everyone's input so far,

Phil

Phil, yes my interest too, but very little time currently.

I have basic information on the later formations, till I start reading through the various histories to get more detail.

Wrede – Geschichte der K. und K. Wehrmacht has some info

Thürheim – Gedenkblätter aus der Kriegsgeschichte der k. k. oesterreichischen Armee – should have something but didn't find any when I had a quick look.

the Prussian/Austrian staff histories will have action details.

all in old German of course.

GB,

With respect to the Austro-Hungarians, I've found the various 'Schematismus' documents to be invaluable. Not sure if you've seen these but it appears that they were issued every year and provide a superb summary of every Regiment in existence at the time (with every Inhaber to date). The latest one I have access to is free on Google Books and covers 1908.

These sites are useful :
mlorenz.at/literatur.htm
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mlorenz.at/Bewaffnete_Macht

When I've taken the Austro-Hungarian army as far as I can, I'll post again. You would be welcome to have a copy (also lists for France, Britain and Saxony if you are interested).

Cheers,

Phil

Thank you Phil, not seen the first link you posted, I have 94GB of downloaded documents including some early Schematismus, its finding time to wade through them making notes and cross checking etc.

Thank you for the kind offer, I might take you up on that in the near future.

Added more information to the Kronoskaf article on Austrian Stabsdragoner (info from Graeffer and Wrede).

Richard C.

The 5 volume history of the Austrian regiments by Wrede has all the info.

Cybermonk,

Very many thanks. I'm a big fan of Kronoskaf and really appreciate this.

T1971,

Thank you – I'll try and find this.

Cheers,

Phil

>>The 5 volume history of the Austrian regiments by Wrede has all the info.

Wow. I've just found this – what a fantastic resource. Thank you !

Phil