Tango01 | 05 Mar 2014 11:02 p.m. PST |
This article is old, but new for me. "On December 7, 1941, the calm of a peaceful Hawaiian Sunday morning was shattered at 7:55am. Bombs and torpedoes began to fall and explode into military targets at Pearl Harbor. By the time the attacks ceased just before 10:00am, the dead and wounded were strewn all around the U.S. Naval installation and sunken within a watery tomb, and dark smoke from destroyed ships, military machines, and buildings spewed into the December sky. This attack upon the U.S. military installation at Pearl Harbor by Japan's Imperial military is recognized by historians as one of the most successful surprise attacks in military history. It was a shock to America and to people throughout the world. But a little known component of this incredibly successful attack is that the Japanese Empire had contracted with a Nazi and his German family to spy on the American military operations at Pearl Harbor from 1935!
Unfortunately, little is remembered about any prior intelligence the Japanese required in order to successfully execute such a blatant and brutal attack upon America
" From here. link Are there any book you recomended about the Germans aid in Perl Harbor? Thanks in advance for your guidance. Amicalement Armand |
MahanMan | 05 Mar 2014 11:49 p.m. PST |
"Nothing is over until we decide it is!" YouTube link WARNING! NSFW! |
Porkmann | 05 Mar 2014 11:58 p.m. PST |
Germany should have declared war on Japan following Pearl. This would have ensured the USA stayed out of the European theatre as Roosevelt would have found it near impossible to justify a war with an apparently sympathetic power. It may too have ended Lend Lease. The negative effects are negligible for Germany as Japan provided no assistance to the Fatherland. Declaring war on the USA, was another example of Herr Hitler's political ineptitude. |
John the OFM | 06 Mar 2014 7:05 a.m. PST |
Declaring war on the USA, was another example of Herr Hitler's political ineptitude. I doubt that very much. We were already in a near state of war over the convoys to great Britain. War, or a declared state of war, was almost inevitable. |
Who asked this joker | 06 Mar 2014 7:20 a.m. PST |
"Nothing is over until we decide it is!" It was inevitable that the Blutarsky speech would be used when "Germans" and "Pearl Harbor" are used in the same sentence. |
ThePeninsularWarin15mm | 06 Mar 2014 8:02 a.m. PST |
Why isn't anyone talking more about the British assistance to the Japanese in building their carrier strike forces, Zeros and torpedoes? That contribution is worth more than any minor technical informaiton shared by the Germans. |
Legion 4 | 06 Mar 2014 9:46 a.m. PST |
Hitler hoped by declaring war on the US after Japan attacked Pearl, that the IJF would attack the USSR from the East
Based on their preformance in the late '30s at Khaklin-Gol and later in '45 with the USSR attacking the IJF in China, etc.
Japan would not have done well. As we saw in the '45, a Type 97 did have much hope against a T-34, SU-85, etc.
and the USSR's predilection for hub-to-hub artillery, etc.
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Prince Rupert of the Rhine | 06 Mar 2014 12:55 p.m. PST |
In fairness the soviets weren't fighting for their lives in 45 or in the 30s. I imagine if the Japanese had decided to attack the eastern soviet union at the same time as Germany (and her allies) launched Barbarossa Stalin might have been a bit worried. For example those Siberian divisions that counter attacked around Moscow in the winter of 41-42 might not have been available if the Japanese had decided to go all out for the eastern soviet union. |
Legion 4 | 06 Mar 2014 4:47 p.m. PST |
No they were not
but regardless the Soviets generally had superior equipment as well as tactics, in either time frame, IMO
I'd put a Russian Division over a Japanese Division pretty much anytime. Even in the jungle
You have two forces here that were not afraid to take losses
but the Russians wouldn't waste troops on banzai charges as often as the IJF. And I might have to check, but I don't think there are any or very few jungles in the terrain where the IJF would be attacking the Russians along the borders. The terrain at Khaklin-Gol for example was a lot of open fields, rolling hills, swamps and marshes
IIRC
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