Early morning writer | 03 Mar 2014 10:35 p.m. PST |
I found this link laregt1776.org when considering adding a Spanish brigade to my 15 mm figure collection for the American Revolution. These look almost more French and Indian War era to me. EIther way, can anyone advise the best figures to use to recreate this unit – in 15 mm of course. I already have a grenadier battalion using the Frei Korp figures. Would want to add 3 battalions to get to a 'full' brigade but might just go with two and some Spanish militia for the fourth element of the brigade. If I do the latter option, again – what figures would be best to do a Spanish militia for this era? Thanks for your assistance on this. |
historygamer | 04 Mar 2014 12:25 p.m. PST |
Militia from where, the islands or southern North America? Could be a significant difference. |
Bill N | 04 Mar 2014 6:29 p.m. PST |
One problem that you may run into is that many of the Spanish units in the Americas, like the French, and sometimes even the British, would have provided detachments for different campaigns rather than supplying entire units. The following is taken from an article on the 1781 siege of Pensacola order of battle by Albert W. Haarmann Spanish from New Orleans, Mobile and Havana Inmemorial del Rey 271 Principe 127 Soria 616 Guadalajara 441 Espana 133 Toledo Mallorca (4 fuisilier cos+2 grenadier cos) Navarra 358 Hibernia (Irish) 580 Aragon 724 Segundo Vols de Cataluna 347 Flandes (Walloon) 193 Royal Artillery 223 Fijo de la Habana 62 Fijo de la Luisiana 135 Dragones de America 85 Dragones de Luisiana 43 Carabiniers 11 Louisiana militia company (mulatto) 135 Louisiana militia company (negro) 139 Naval forces serving ashore (3 inf bttns + artillery) 1,504 French (total ca. 725 from Agenois, Gatinois, Cambresis, Poitou, Orleans, Colonia Regt. Du Cap plus Artillery and navy) British (total ca. 2,000) 16th Foot 110 60th Foot-3rd Bn. 133 Royal Artillery 36 Royal Navy 246 3rd Regt. Waldeck 303 Pennsylvania Loyalists 62 Maryland Loyalists 135 Provincial Cavalry 19 Indians (Creeks, Choctaws, Chickasaws) and local militia including black troops. Numbers are for officers and men |
15th Hussar | 04 Mar 2014 6:54 p.m. PST |
Bill N. I found this article online, is this the one you referred to: link If so, would it be asking to much for an electronic copy of the article, if you already have one in your possesion? Please advise, Andrew |
11th ACR | 04 Mar 2014 8:32 p.m. PST |
A nice line of 28mm AWI Spanish Infantry. link |
Early morning writer | 04 Mar 2014 10:24 p.m. PST |
Okay, first – 11th ACR: can you advise temperature in which to wash 28 mm figures in order to shrink them down to 15 mm, please? : ) historygamer: primarily for use in the Floridas but might see use in a Caribbean event. Jim, very nice list. So, any 15 mm figures out their suitable for AmRev Spanish? Besides the Freikorps offfering I already have. |
Bill N | 05 Mar 2014 5:41 a.m. PST |
Andrew-I believe that may be the same article. I don't have Jstor access at the moment. |
15th Hussar | 05 Mar 2014 7:43 a.m. PST |
Thanks Bill. I put out some feelers with some librarians I know who may have free access to JSTOR, if not
I guess I'll have to buy a copy. |
Tercio Idiaquez | 05 Mar 2014 10:48 a.m. PST |
For the spanish soldiers in Panzacola campaign there is a problema for the peninsular units. For the military units from América (Habana, Fijo de Louisiana) you can use french soldiers. I have done my army with old glory minis (french soldiers references). The problema are the peninsular units, which had an special hat "gorro de plumillas" link It was used for a short time and never for american units, only peninsular. For the grenadiers I have used napoleonic spanish grenadiers but I have added them the sleeves with putty. |
Early morning writer | 06 Mar 2014 8:25 p.m. PST |
Tercio, thank you, that is a wonderful link – and I don't read or understand Spanish hardly at all, don't need to with those illustrations, really. |
Tercio Idiaquez | 07 Mar 2014 6:57 a.m. PST |
Well, if you have any doubt, with my "spanglish" I´ll try to help you. |
marco56 | 16 Mar 2014 5:35 p.m. PST |
A lot of Louisiana militia were cajuns. Mark |
Early morning writer | 22 May 2014 7:21 p.m. PST |
Okay, so I've now decided the units I want for my Spanish Brigade of the Floridas – one grenadier, two line battalions, and one militia battalion. The grenadiers seem easy, Galvan's (though a picture to guide my painting would be great). But I'd like suggestions for the best two (most action in Florida) for the two line battalions and the militia battalion (again, most action preferred). I've already bought the figures, in 15 mm; I'm using French figures (closest I can find) for the line and just plain militia for the militia. Galvan's grenadiers are from Freikorp (QRF). This is for fun more than for careful historical accuracy – but that doesn't mean I abandon history completely. That's why I'm here asking for your assistance. Last, photos of uniforms great (perhaps the units in Tercio's link above?). Thank you kindly for your assistance in this matter. |
Augie the Doggie | 22 May 2014 9:37 p.m. PST |
If you are interested in the Spanish army in the AWI then you should consider purchasing a copy of John Ray's book, "A Military Gentleman". link There are lots and lots of pictures of the Spanish campaigns. |
Supercilius Maximus | 23 May 2014 6:52 a.m. PST |
There is a series of Spanish books – not unlike the Osprey Campaign series – which includes two that cover the sieges of Pensacola and Gibraltar; both have some good details on TOE and uniforms for the Spanish in American and Europe. |
andygamer | 23 May 2014 5:47 p.m. PST |
The Osprey/MAA-like series is "Guerreros Y Batallas" from Almena publishing. La Campana de Pensacola, 1781 (#7 in the series; 2002) is written by Manuel Petinal. I bought my copy from the Spanish military bookdealer, Libros Reyes, although I don't know if they'd still have any in stock. |
Supercilius Maximus | 24 May 2014 2:07 a.m. PST |
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Tercio Idiaquez | 25 May 2014 2:47 a.m. PST |
That book is great for this campaign. My favourite units: Hibernia (irish regiment with the red uniform), Inmemorial del Rey and Soria. Militia; "milicias de color de la Habana" (black soldiers). |
Ainvar | 20 Oct 2014 10:58 a.m. PST |
Hi everybody. I am planning to collect some miniatures of spanish forces in Pensacola's campaign in order to used them to play "Musket and Tomahawk". I want to use Perry's french with several changes as grenadiers and some regulars. My problems begin with moreno's militias and regulars with "gorro de plumillas". I visit historifigs web and the miniatures fix good but they have a very few poses. What do you use to form these units? |
Crazycoote | 20 Oct 2014 11:45 a.m. PST |
11th ACR, Just tried your link -it seems broken. What company were you pointing to? |
Ainvar | 21 Oct 2014 1:41 p.m. PST |
It seems that the link was pointing to historifigs. |