DesertScrb | 26 Feb 2014 8:50 a.m. PST |
I like using Ogre minis on the deluxe boardgame maps, but as you can see, the Ogres themselves are too big for the hexes:
I'm thinking of getting a game mat inscribed with large hexes. I originally thought four-inch hexes would work, but a commenter on my blog pointed out that going with that size has its own drawback: link So, I'm wanting to go with a game mat that has hexes larger than those on the current maps. Any suggestions as to hex size and source for these mats? Feel free to answer here or on my blog. |
elsyrsyn | 26 Feb 2014 9:26 a.m. PST |
If you decide on 4" hexes, there's Terrain Maker form GHQ and/or Hexon from Kallistra for 3D terrain (or you can get your own hex blanks cut by a commercial foam shop). For any given size hex, you can get a marking template from Litko (either off the shelf or one made to your specs). If you already have a mat you like and just want to add hexes to it temporarily (and the mat is machine washable), you can do that with chalk pastels and the template, and then wash them back out later. Doug |
Andrew Walters | 26 Feb 2014 9:30 a.m. PST |
I made myself several 2" hex maps for Ogre and GEV, some in paper, several felt, and some foam. At 2" it's almost big enough for an Ogre or for the concentrations you get at the choke points on the G.E.V. and Shockwavge maps, and only *slightly* inconveniently large. The truth is 1.5" is a good size for regular use. 2" requires a big table. 3" or 4" would be great for several reasons, but unless you have several folding tables and the space to set them up side by side you'll only get to do that at special events. |
Rich Bliss | 26 Feb 2014 9:31 a.m. PST |
Don't forget the reach factor as well, how wide a map do you expect with 4" hexes. |
jpattern2 | 26 Feb 2014 9:31 a.m. PST |
As the commenter on your blog pointed out, large hexes require a much larger table, or playing on the floor. Since ground scale is abstract anyway, I've decided to stick with the OGRE maps as-is. I'd actually like to go the other direction, and see OGRE minis produced in two scales: The current 1/300 scale, and entirely new sculpts in 1/900-1/1200 scale. Faster to paint, easier to store and transport, and much cheaper. |
MrAverage | 26 Feb 2014 10:26 a.m. PST |
Croupier sticks would seem to be a worthwhile addition to a kit that big. I think an 8x8 table would be the very edge of what's manageable. But GHQ TerrainMaker hexes would be about right, albeit labor intensive. |
Allen57 | 26 Feb 2014 10:40 a.m. PST |
In the model railroading hobby 3 feet is considered the greatest depth to which a person can reach and manipulate scenery, trains, etc. This seems a bit short to me but the railroaders do have a lot of experience with such things. |
whitphoto | 26 Feb 2014 10:56 a.m. PST |
3 feet is about the limit for me. I'm 6'2" and I can reach across my kitchen table which is 39 inches wide, and thats while leaning over. I don't think I would be able to reach 4' without sweeping things off the edge with my gut. Hell at 3" I have to worry about my sleeves and gut catching things. |
Bashytubits | 26 Feb 2014 11:39 a.m. PST |
You could always use GHQ hex system they are big enough to place an OGRE on. Another option is to buy 4 inch mdf hexes and make your own terrain or get a Template for 4 inch hexes and spray it onto cloth. Whoops, just read what Elsryn said, excellent suggestions. IMHO 4 inch hexes work best with "official" Ogre miniatures. I have been using my GHQ terrain for Ogre battles. |
DesertScrb | 26 Feb 2014 12:03 p.m. PST |
Bashy, where can I obtain some 4-inch mdf hexes? I think I want to go with a gaming mat, but I could use some individual hexes as bases for terrain overlays. |
Parzival | 26 Feb 2014 12:23 p.m. PST |
Well, if the grids are to be custom-made, why not go with a half size, like 3.5" ? Or you could just rule that Ogres are BIG and occupy all hexes into which they extend. |
Mako11 | 26 Feb 2014 12:35 p.m. PST |
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Paint it Pink | 26 Feb 2014 1:56 p.m. PST |
The trouble IMNSHO with going hexless that it changes the feeling of the game. I feel that a different set of rules that were able to throw off the assumptions of the board game would make for a better hexless alternative than the current Ogre Miniature rules, because I for one don't have a table large enough to go all out for four inch hexes. |
taskforce58 | 26 Feb 2014 2:04 p.m. PST |
The bigger Ogres like the Mk.V might need a 3" hex to fit. @DesertScrb – MiniBits (www.minibits.net) do MDF hex bases in a variety of sizes. |
Parzival | 26 Feb 2014 3:22 p.m. PST |
I wonder if a compromise might be center dots rather than hexes. Since facing is not an issue, you can place the Ogres on top of a dot with its orientation tweaked however you like so as to only cover one dot. I suspect this would allow you to use smaller hexes, and get in the terrain elements you want, too. |
jfleisher | 26 Feb 2014 5:01 p.m. PST |
I just do hex less Ogre. That way I can adjust the scale according to the size of the play area. Big Table = 4" hexes, small table = 2" hexes. Just adjust the movement and ranges accordingly. |
Extra Crispy | 27 Feb 2014 10:42 p.m. PST |
Here is how I did a hex mat just marking centers TMP link |
Mad Mecha Guy | 28 Feb 2014 4:38 a.m. PST |
If some one wants 4" MDF hex tiles I can cut them or do etched hex map/panels (each max area of:29.6mmx49.6mm) Only a fairly quick design & chop job, would have to paint own patterns/terrain on though. Regards MMG |
DesertScrb | 28 Feb 2014 6:43 p.m. PST |
MMG, do you have a website? |