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Tango0113 Feb 2014 10:08 p.m. PST

"The Navy's Littoral Combat Ship, or LCS, program was dealt a death blow last month when the Pentagon advised the Navy to purchase only 32 of the small, fast and much maligned ships that were originally designed to combat three distinct threats — submarines, mines and groups of small boats.

This was absolutely the right move for at least three reasons.

The first, and most glaring, deficiency of the LCS is that, as a recent Pentagon's Director of Operational Test and Evaluation report states, the "LCS is not expected to be survivable in high-intensity combat." While the Pentagon has used similar language in previous reports, the level of detail explaining why the boat wouldn't survive a real fight is unprecedented…"

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Mako1113 Feb 2014 11:06 p.m. PST

I'd prefer them to stop at 2.

Personal logo Murphy Sponsoring Member of TMP14 Feb 2014 6:11 a.m. PST

Well simply put…in laymans terms, they can't say "It's a POS!" in their official report…

A Twiningham14 Feb 2014 6:31 a.m. PST

Purchasing "only 32" of a ship that appears unable to do much at somewhere around $440 USD million per ship, and THAT is considered a win these days. Your tax dollars at work.

Caesar14 Feb 2014 7:42 a.m. PST

Feel bad for the sailors who will have to man these death traps.

Personal logo Doctor X Supporting Member of TMP14 Feb 2014 8:35 a.m. PST

Bad news for our local shipyard but clearly the right thing to do.

Ron W DuBray14 Feb 2014 8:52 a.m. PST

give them to the cost guard they would have a use for them. but even they would put more weapons on them.

Phil Gray14 Feb 2014 9:13 a.m. PST

Hmmm.. well I guess, at a pinch, you;d get 5 Zumwalts out of that spend… can they be where the other 27 LCS could be?

Lion in the Stars14 Feb 2014 10:50 a.m. PST

You can get a good 9 Burkes out of that spending, though!

The Coasties would love to get a ship able to handle a helo… Sounds like the USN should have split the production with the Coasties in the first place.

SouthernPhantom14 Feb 2014 6:49 p.m. PST

Yeah, and maybe start producing National Security Cutters with a VLS for the Navy…

I'm actually completely serious. The ship's small-craft ramp would be great for SPECFOR and/or counter-piracy, it already has aviation facilities and CIWS. All that would be necessary would be integration of mil-spec radar/fire-control and some survivability measures.

Charlie 1214 Feb 2014 10:23 p.m. PST

Just took a look at the NSC and it looks like much of the radar suite is mil-spec already. You may have a kernel of an idea there…

As for the forlorn LCS…. If the Navy has any brains (yeah, I know…), they'll settle on one mission for these hulls and optimize them for that. At least they'd get some use out of them. As it stands now, they're just oversized and underarmed speedboats.

Cloudy15 Feb 2014 12:11 a.m. PST

When I read about my government spending my hard-earned tax dollars so stupidly, I feel powerless. When I feel powerless, I want to take the power back. When I want to take the power back, I take karate. When I take karate, I want to use my karate. When I want to use my karate, I become "The Fist of Goodness". When I become "The Fist of Goodness", I run along rooftops and when I run along rooftops, I fall into a dinner party… Don't fall into a dinner party – ditch the LCS! ;-)

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP15 Feb 2014 9:31 a.m. PST

With the current US economic situation, I think the US should concentrate on keeping the current the CVNs, SSBNs, etc. afloat and combat ready/FMC …

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