"Seriously, why buy Warhammer: Visions every month" Topic

I've been collecting WD since issue 86. Lately I hang in there hoping that sooner or later it would get back to being a hobby magazine and not a pretty catalogue, but now?! They took away the few interesting contents that were left in WD and put them in an overpriced weekly leaflet (to get which I'll either have to drive in the town center where it's a driver's hell or spend for the shipping costs from their online store). And then they will publish a 228 pages… They call it magazine, but it is just a collection of very nice pictures of miniatures with some small caption that don't add much. I mean, it is like a Golden Demon leaflet x 100. It looks good, but why buy it every month? What does it give to the hobbist? Expecially in the age of the internet.
Maybe it is just me, but, after 30+ years, I won't be buying it anymore.

Sorry, I missed the question mark in the topic description

I stopped at issue 52 so I'm not the best person to ask…

John T

I can't see Visions selling very well , I know people like to look at pictures of well-painted figures but you can do that by browsing through it in the newsagents. I suppose the only use is to give you inspiration for painting your own collection.
TBH I fear that Wargames Illustrated is on the event horizon of going the same way , turning into a 'pretty picture' catalogue of photos of minis , ' games with my mates ' articles and unappetizing fluff.

I wonder if it is the sign that tradizional press just can't compete with the Net anymore, or it is that the publishers don't have the imagination or the skills to propose something innovative and interesting and they limit themselves to try to get all the money they can while it still lasts with no eye to a possible future

So the magazine won't have a battle report where the army of the month wins?

Also no hobby articles on how to build and paint this month's new releases?

For shame!

And the weekly magazine?!? If I live close to a hobby center it might even be interesting, if still overpriced, but if you don't? If you manage to go to a store or decide to order it online, by the time you get it it will be ooooold news…
If WI goes down the same path, it will be another sad day for me :(

Yes Elmo, it already sucked, but now is…pointless.

Also, I don't want this to be a rant against GW, I just want to try to understand their editorial choice. Are there really people interested in the magazine? Why? I mean, I love the magazines also because they have nice glossy pics, but I would like to have something to read and learn. While in the past they offered many ideas and new and different techniques from experienced painters, lately the painting articles in WD are evidently there just to make you buy more needless colours (mixing the basic ones you can get most of the more useful shades, anyway). I am only wondering why….

I stopped buying WE years ago when they stopped having rule content and just started being an advertising slick.

I think the mindset that believes Visions is a good idea is the exact same as that which changed "hobby centers" into one-man stores. I am not a GW's hater, but to me these interrelated changes seem stupid.

Me like pretty pictures, durrrrrrr

I picked up ish 1 of the weekly edition. It comes across a lot like the previous incarnation of White Dwarf, now only weekly and at much increased cost! I'm going to check out the next issue, but if it stays this way, might not buy into it…

Damon.

All GW-Vehemence aside, This notion baffles me.

How is this cost-effective, or at least MORE cost effective than monthly? Even GW is not product-prolific enough to justify that.

How is narrowing the release of what is basically advertising better for you brand?

Now that there is no content OTHER than pretty pictures, NOT released through news vendors, how do they justify charging for it at all? My mailbox is full of the same thing, delivered to my door, free of charge.

I'd love to have been the fly on the wall at THAT meeting.

I did stop buying WD about one year ago, although before then I just bought it now and then. Now? Wouldn't dream spending my cash in something that hasn't any added value. I am not a GW-hater. Far from it. Actually, I still like (most) of their miniatures. But their magazine is just a waste of paper and ink.

I like it. It an ambitious graphic design project to tell a story without words, make it international, and present variety with a limited number of photos. I think it's about $3 USD-4 too expensive, however. In conjunction with the weekly Im not too ed about the change in format. Oftentimes I would just look at the old WD for pics anyhow. Hard to tell if the mag will survive however. There seems to be a lot of negativity about WV. But is it the consensus or just the usual internet syndrome of the negative people expressing their opinions loudly while those content remain silent? Time will tell…

I'm long past being irritated by GW's decisions, these days I just find them fascinating. I like to keep up with their latest moves as I usually find them entertainingly baffling.

I'd expected the 'big news' about White Dwarf to be that GW was ditching paper magazines, not multiplying their investment in that market. Splitting the failing old White Dwarf into a monthly plus a weekly was bizarre enough, but the discovery that the monthly is just a picture book? Amazing… can't wait to see what they do next!

For the record I'm not a GW hater either – I've been a fan of 40k since the Rogue Trader days and I spend the majority of my hobby time these days working on Heresy-era marines. None of this is said with venom, just amused incredulity.

I stopped reading when they decided anything outside their immediate games was not worth adding as a story (such as the how to build vehicles articles and stuff), and then upped the price, and the size of the mag shrank. I was then done with the incredibly shrinking personally paid for advertisement.

Wait- my blog is just like Visions: I present a bunch of nice photos of minis, along with a few pointless words -- you mean I could have been charging all of my readers $12 USD?!

I need to go back to GW marketing school.

Why charge something like £6.00 GBP each month if you can charge £3.00 GBP-4 every week ?

they limit themselves to try to get all the money they can while it still lasts with no eye to a possible future

I am a EE hater so there! I'd rather get a subscription to Playboy at least looking at the pictures make sense 8-D

When GW stopped the "how to" paint and build articals looong a go I stopped buying/wasting my Rubles. Their product has no meaning and you'd be better off buying miniatures. Cheers

No access to ebay from work but I wonder if the 'premier' issues have hit there yet???

DD, there have been preorders up on eBay for the premiere mag for a few days ahead of release.

As for Visions, not one i will buy.

As for the Weekly. I stopped buying the old WD a few years ago when the price tag got too silly. I would just pick up back issues for a few bucks at convention. But now this is how i see the weekly…..
Old WD 132 pages $10 USD a month.
New WD Weekly is 32 pages and $4 USD a week.
Over the month it is 4 less pages for $6 USD more a month.

Sucks eh :-(

Grimm