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JC Lira02 Feb 2014 12:57 p.m. PST

Does anyone here know of any great historical battles that correspond to works of Asian literature? For example, the battles of the Shahnameh and the Bhagavad-Gita -- are there any historical records for the battles on which they were based? or is there any other battle in Asian ancient or medieval history that fits this bill, that could be studied (in preparation for a wargame, naturally) from both a literary and a historical record?

Carlos13th02 Feb 2014 1:01 p.m. PST

Its highly fictionalised but Romance of the Three Kingdoms may still be of interest to you.

JC Lira02 Feb 2014 1:09 p.m. PST

where could a person find a non-literary, historical look at a battle from the Three Kingdoms?

evilgong02 Feb 2014 2:04 p.m. PST

Alexander's battles appears in the Shahnameh.

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Carlos13th02 Feb 2014 3:18 p.m. PST

I honestly don't know sorry.

Ancestral Hamster02 Feb 2014 3:28 p.m. PST

The Battle of the Red Cliffs from the Three Kingdoms period. The Chinese made a few movies of it (although I have not seen any myself).

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The problem I find with battles in Romance of the Three Kingdoms is that they are Homeric in nature. Basically, the two champions fight each other in single combat, one falls, and the winner single-handly routs the loser's army, with his own army only there just to cheer him on. It might not make for the most interesting of miniature battles, unless you prefer a skirmish type game.

McWong7302 Feb 2014 4:52 p.m. PST

Three Kingdoms period is the way to go, you should try and get your hands on a copy of the WAB China supplement. For medieval period you'll need advice from others.

Osprey has a book called Soldiers of the Dragon that has a lot of info on these periods of Chinese military history.

Carlos13th02 Feb 2014 4:54 p.m. PST

I haven't read Romance of the Three kingdoms myself so cant give much information on it. Was just a suggestion that came to my head.

There was a movie called Red Cliff which was intresting though, I suggest the Chinese version that comes in two parts over the much shorter international version.

KTravlos02 Feb 2014 5:15 p.m. PST

I am reading Romance of the Three Kingdoms right now. One thing I have done is to assume when the author says Hero A did x. in battler, I assume it means his forces, expect in the cases of individual combat.

The book does have a lot of operational level action. That said there is specific theme into how battles happen, and it can get boring for me after a point (at page 900 for me).

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