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Tommiatkins02 Feb 2014 4:31 a.m. PST

Hi Chaps

After a few years away, I have been building up the portfolio of rules again opened some new forums and polished up the site to Launch the Flagship (if you will pardon the pun) game "TO GLORY WE STEER"

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Herein you will find Free Stuff, and hopefully you will like the new rules. With BLAZING SKIES WW2 Air Combat, Napoleonic Naval, CARNAGE:Mad Max Car rallying with a twist and CHINESE TAKEOUT: Kung Fu Magic and Mayham there should be something for everyone. I have also kept the old stalwarts Port& Cigars and Justified Ancients, (Although they really do need a new lick of paint). Schwerepunkte is undergoing a rewrite.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP02 Feb 2014 4:47 a.m. PST

On T'interwebs………..'appen tha means "On't interwebs" lad.

EEEH round here, an apostrophe in't wrong place….nowt worse

Tommiatkins02 Feb 2014 4:57 a.m. PST

Sithee ear. I were born wi'in stones throw ut Emley Mewere Mast I'lavethee know.

M C MonkeyDew02 Feb 2014 5:29 a.m. PST

Good to see you back in action so to speak!

Bob

Gwydion02 Feb 2014 6:21 a.m. PST

On T'interwebs………..'appen tha means "On't interwebs" lad.

EEEH round here, an apostrophe in't wrong place….nowt worse


Gosh! What a grammatical error!

Assuming, as one must, that northern speech elides the preceding terminal vowel sound with the following initial vowel – as in 'the internet', then in order to represent the missing vowel sound in standard English writing one should consider standard English. Here an apostrophe is used to stand in for missing letters in contractions in spoken English: so Are they not?' becomes 'Aren't they?' (Using the slightly altered construction 'Are not they?' The ultimate e of 'Are' and the initial n of 'not' are placed together (with no apostrophisation) and the omitted vowel 'o'is replaced with an apostrophe.

Thus looking again at our initial example of 'The internet' we get 'T'internet'.

Using the full colloquial horror of 'on the interweb' in the op, we will get ont'interweb'(preferred) or possibly (grammarians differ) 'on t'interweb', but never On't interweb. That would be silly.

Of course the written error is common amongst non-northern speakers as listening to the stressed syllables makes it unclear where the elision takes place but, until a better method of displaying stress in written English is devised, 'ont'interweb' is preferred as it shows both elision and refrains from placing undue glottal emphasis on the 'n' and 't' proximity, which does not exist in spoken northern dialect.

All clear now?grin

Thank you

Archeopteryx02 Feb 2014 6:31 a.m. PST

Interestingly the rather pompous third person use of 'one' instead of 'we' in standard English is in fact derived from the colloquial and familiar 'on' used in place of the formal 'nous' in standard French. What this says is that their (or there) is no such thing as standard or correct language (written or spoken) beyond those who believe their way of speaking or writing is better than others – despite the best efforts of Dr. Johnson, W. & R. Chambers and the University of Oxford… ;)

Merci

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP02 Feb 2014 6:43 a.m. PST

"their" (sic) is indeed no such thing as a classical education these days. We rely on Bill Gates to write the Queen's (Queens', Queens) English.

If tha speaks proper Yorkshire, then the "t" is sounded immediately after the on in "on't bridge". There is a relatively long pause before bridge. Pint ut…. best, also the long pause in going down't… road. We're big on't glottic stops oop North (actually in all serious it very much depends on where tha's from. I'm Irish born and bred but live on't North York Moors). Now then……(opens every conversation around here)

Archeopteryx02 Feb 2014 6:53 a.m. PST

apologies for the daily muck link

Who asked this joker02 Feb 2014 7:16 a.m. PST

I have no idea what you said. wink Welcome back and thanks for keeping your games available in e-format!

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP02 Feb 2014 7:16 a.m. PST

He cheated!!!! He edited his error…….

He did well to cry Merci at the end of his missive.

EEH lads, have tha nowt better to do on't Sunday afternoon than clutter the site wi' attempts to convert Southerners into speaking proper like what we do…gnaw worrie meen mayte, blinding (and we beat Swansea yesterday)?

Archeopteryx02 Feb 2014 7:28 a.m. PST

Deadhead,

Yes small mercies indeed. I was arguing that a spelling or grammatical anomaly is only an 'error' in the eye of the beholder…. And as Hemingway would say, when he misspelled, "that's what editors are for"…

Grazia (or Grazie, depending upon how many of you there are). And we got stuffed by Everton, and that was an error.

James

Fried Flintstone02 Feb 2014 8:15 a.m. PST

Hoch tha nooo

General Jumbo02 Feb 2014 8:23 a.m. PST

This took me back to the time many years ago, when I once accidentally switched the telly over to Emmerdale Farm, and was plunged straight into an incomprehensible conversation between Amos Brierley and Mr Wilkes, as in "'appen yer right, Mr Wilkes. Ah'm off down't road t't' Woolpack right away".
Brrrr, scary.

freewargamesrules02 Feb 2014 9:23 a.m. PST

Not available on mobile devices due to flash player issues

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP02 Feb 2014 9:25 a.m. PST

'appen

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP02 Feb 2014 9:37 a.m. PST

"than clutter the site wi' attempts"? to quote.

To speak Yorkshire, say this up to the end of "clutter"….then sat "ut", but without sounding it (odd that, it's silent), swallow it, it's called a glottic stop…more a choke than a swallow, then follow with rest ut sentence. Tha'll get a better welcome in any local pub.

Tommiatkins, did you miss one "s" in your message. Are you really from the baseut Helmsley mast? Can see it out my window as I type this………

laager5002 Feb 2014 10:26 a.m. PST

As mentioned above, unable to view it on my iPad as flash player required.

Tommiatkins02 Feb 2014 10:47 a.m. PST

Aye lad. T'flash players needed cosu T'slide show. I get the same. Bit of a pain.

I didn't realise a lot of mobile pads wont be able to view.
Still, you cant print the template pages off a mobile either so,just wait till the kids are off the PC!

I am stunned at the amount of fellow Yorkshire gamers here. I left Gawthorpe in the 80's so my command of real queens yerkshire has faded wi time

Tommiatkins02 Feb 2014 10:48 a.m. PST

Aye lad. T'flash players needed cos ot T'slide show. I get the same. Bit of a pain.

I didn't realise a lot of mobile pads wont be able to view.
Still, you cant print the template pages off a mobile either so,just wait till the kids are off the PC!

I am stunned at the amount of fellow Yorkshire gamers here. I left Gawthorpe in the 80's so my command of real queens yerkshire has faded wi time

Lt Col Pedant02 Feb 2014 12:55 p.m. PST

Well said, Gwydion! Not bad for a Welshman.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP02 Feb 2014 1:48 p.m. PST

" real queens in yerkshire",

Eeeeeeh, our Dad, 'e'd have had none of that and 'e were from Waterford anyway. Our Dad. If I'd said owt about an iPad…well I don't like to think

I dunno. Kids these days. Acrylics? Perrys? Greenstuff? When I were a lad we dreamt of such. Me and our lad, we would work down't pit for a month for a single Hinchliffe Cuirassier. We dreamt of a Carabinier…..and as for an 'orse……..!

Kids these days. Games B…y Workshop….don't know they're born

Tommiatkins02 Feb 2014 4:34 p.m. PST

Hinchliff? Hinchliff? We used to DREAM of Hinchliff. When I was a lad we used to have to cast Prince August in copper pans over a fire fueled by burning copies of Spearhead and GRW rules, then we would cool the castings with us own blood.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP02 Feb 2014 5:03 p.m. PST

EEEEEEEEH, you had it easy. Blood? That were nowt to us.

Airfix plastic French Infantry. Every box came with this daft figure of a lad a carrying another bloke cross his back and his musket! Remember that? Who ever actually used that?

Well our Dad, he'd head to Pig and Whistle, after beating us black and blue and me and our lad, come 11 o'clock there we were…..doing an impersonation of that eejet….and it were 14 miles across the Moors. All weathers.

They have it easy now. Made us the psychotics we are…..and West Ham fans

Robert Kennedy02 Feb 2014 7:00 p.m. PST

Welcome back Tommi!. I have been keeping the "Looking for unusual scenarios" Topic going for you grin. Robert

My 3mm-1/600th Miniatures Wargaming Yahoo Group
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Tommiatkins03 Feb 2014 4:39 a.m. PST

Hi kaos! I noticed that! Really sterling job. Or a Stirling job if it has 4 engines.

I recommended it to anyone who has not yet seen it.

Robert Kennedy03 Feb 2014 8:24 p.m. PST

Thanks my Friend grin. Robert

Kent Reuber Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2014 8:39 a.m. PST

Welcome back. I'm glad to see Justified Ancients and your other rules available again. If you need help with editing or layout, let me know.

Gwydion06 Feb 2014 12:23 p.m. PST

Mr Atkins – sorry to hijack your announcement – best wishes for the new stuff.

Archeopteryx -

The grammar commentary was meant to be 'whimsy'.

But re 'one' and 'on' my understanding of the nature of the association (if there is one) is that it is unclear.
'On' can indeed be colloquial in French for 'we', 'you' or 'they' but the connection with English is more likely to be via the formal French indefinite pronoun which best translates in English to 'one'.

As for 'anything goes' grammar, good grief man! Next thing you will telling me that it's acceptable to use a preposition to end a sentence with!

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP06 Feb 2014 1:36 p.m. PST

Or even to produce such a missive with only two commas….the apostrophe is the politically correct thing to pursue; the comma is totally overlooked these days.

(I have to read submissions for publication, in a medical journal, on a daily basis. The proof readers are anally retentive anoraks though. They spot the slightest error.)

I thought there was an "e" in whimsy. Up here there is anyway…"e, that's whimsy"

Last Hussar06 Feb 2014 2:12 p.m. PST

Sorry, isn't the Tintinet a Web pages about a boy reporter?

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