Guthroth | 19 Jan 2014 3:01 a.m. PST |
Hi I spent some time in the War Museum in Athens yesterday, and was more than a little taken with a little thing called a Fahrpanzer.
They were designed as a retractable fortress turret running on rails this one was used by the Bulgarians between 1894 and the end of WW1. The interesting thing is that these two are still on their transport carriages. I took quite a few pics and they are posted here - colanhomm.org/Fahrpanzer What struck me was the potential use for VSF or Pulp games possibly as some sort of armoured horse artillery I made some rough measureasurments for anyone interested - Large wheeldiameter 48" Small Wheel 15" Barrel section of Hull 40 " tall Dome section about 18-24" Barrel hull Diameter 36-40" Overall width 70-80" Hull armour 20mm Hull to front (horse) end about 48" Barrel hull to end of rails about 20" Overall length 110 – 120" To me all this was completely new, although now I'm home I find that Wikipedia has pages here. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrpanzerand here de.wikipedia.org/wiki/FahrpanzerThe German language page is much more extensive but there is no direct transaltion Matador models make one in1/72 but without the carriage
Hope it inspires you ! Pete |
DLIinVSF | 19 Jan 2014 3:09 a.m. PST |
Splendidly wacky , bravo. |
fred12df | 19 Jan 2014 3:50 a.m. PST |
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arthur1815 | 19 Jan 2014 4:52 a.m. PST |
Bet it can't climb stairs! |
Jeff of SaxeBearstein | 19 Jan 2014 5:16 a.m. PST |
This is a very cool-looking item . . . and it would be great to have some on a VSF table top. Thank you for the photos and details, sir. I presume that a number of people will be scratch-building quite soon. -- Jeff
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Guthroth | 19 Jan 2014 6:34 a.m. PST |
Sadly the Matador one is both out of stock and 1/72nd scale, but I am certainly going to be looking at a version in 15mm. Googling Fahrpanzer and then selecting Images brings up a number of photos of them in situ, as well as this image
which will be of great help in scratchbuilding. Pete |
Ivan DBA | 19 Jan 2014 1:18 p.m. PST |
Looks like something the Quar would use too! |
jgibbons | 19 Jan 2014 6:15 p.m. PST |
My first thought was "Dalek" too
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tuscaloosa | 20 Jan 2014 7:55 a.m. PST |
So glad you got photographs. Great research. |
Stepman3 | 20 Jan 2014 8:44 a.m. PST |
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mrinku | 21 Jan 2014 2:17 p.m. PST |
Every time I play World of Tanks, I think "Dalek". Pretty much any turret does it. |
J Womack 94 | 21 Jan 2014 9:29 p.m. PST |
Interesting. Very interesting. |
TheBeast | 23 Jan 2014 9:37 a.m. PST |
My first thought was "Dalek" too
. And the rest of us are cursing Fred for saying it first. ;->= Thanks, Guthrock! Doug |
BlackWidowPilot | 24 Jan 2014 3:15 p.m. PST |
How do you say "EXTERRRMINATE!!!" in Bulgarian? Leland R. Erickson Metal Express metal-express.net |
WarpSpeed | 24 Jan 2014 9:43 p.m. PST |
Looks like the goblin contraption from Labyrinth. |
snodipous | 27 Jan 2014 12:46 p.m. PST |
Looks like something the Quar would use too! That's the first thing I thought too! |
Ian Dury | 09 Feb 2014 8:57 a.m. PST |
If anyone is interested, I wrote a booklet on these for the Continental Was Society a couple of years ago. I can put a copy up on Dropbox if people are interested. You can contact me at Ian dot dury at hotmail dot co dot uk Ian |
Ian Dury | 10 Feb 2014 3:24 p.m. PST |
And I have just put the booklet on Dropbox for anyone who is interested Ian |
etotheipi | 12 Feb 2014 8:40 a.m. PST |
How do you say "EXTERRRMINATE!!!" in Bulgarian? коля (kohl-YAH), maybe? There isn't really a Latin derivative equivalent like in English, but коля means impassionate killing. It's also the animal butchering word. A fairly decent equivalent. Plus it starts with a hard consonant; that's good for yelling commands. Edit: My Cyrillic characters aren't coming across. It's "KO" then the "l" character that looks like a "JI" joined at the top (related to Greek lambda), and the "backwards R", which is the "ya" phoneme. (And, no the backward R is not an R. The R in various Cyrillic alphabets is related to the Greek Rho, and so it looks like a "P".) |
Curufea | 12 Feb 2014 2:23 p.m. PST |
Could be a browser or a website issue (in its metadata) for the usage of unicode charsets. |
Porkmann | 03 Mar 2014 9:05 a.m. PST |
Good museum and normally very quiet. |
tsofian | 04 Mar 2014 4:19 a.m. PST |
These were also used on armored trains |
Guthroth | 04 Mar 2014 6:14 a.m. PST |
Quiet is a bit on understatement. I was there on a Saturday, and apart from the staff, I think I saw one adult with a child and that was it. However, I was glad to see an example of the military taking care of their own heritage rather than pencil-pushers bacon-slicing the budget until such places disappear. |