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Guthroth19 Jan 2014 3:01 a.m. PST

Hi

I spent some time in the War Museum in Athens yesterday, and was more than a little taken with a little thing called a Fahrpanzer.

picture


They were designed as a retractable fortress turret running on rails this one was used by the Bulgarians between 1894 and the end of WW1. The interesting thing is that these two are still on their transport carriages. I took quite a few pics and they are posted here -

colanhomm.org/Fahrpanzer

What struck me was the potential use for VSF or Pulp games possibly as some sort of armoured horse artillery

I made some rough measureasurments for anyone interested -

Large wheeldiameter 48"
Small Wheel 15"
Barrel section of Hull 40 " tall
Dome section about 18-24"
Barrel hull Diameter 36-40"
Overall width 70-80"
Hull armour 20mm
Hull to front (horse) end about 48"
Barrel hull to end of rails about 20"
Overall length 110 – 120"

To me all this was completely new, although now I'm home I find that Wikipedia has pages here.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrpanzer
and here
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrpanzer
The German language page is much more extensive but there is no direct transaltion

Matador models make one in1/72 but without the carriage
picture


Hope it inspires you !

Pete

DLIinVSF19 Jan 2014 3:09 a.m. PST

Splendidly wacky , bravo.

fred12df19 Jan 2014 3:50 a.m. PST

Steampunk Dalek?

arthur181519 Jan 2014 4:52 a.m. PST

Bet it can't climb stairs!

Jeff of SaxeBearstein19 Jan 2014 5:16 a.m. PST

This is a very cool-looking item . . . and it would be great to have some on a VSF table top.

Thank you for the photos and details, sir. I presume that a number of people will be scratch-building quite soon.


-- Jeff

Guthroth19 Jan 2014 6:34 a.m. PST

Sadly the Matador one is both out of stock and 1/72nd scale, but I am certainly going to be looking at a version in 15mm.

Googling Fahrpanzer and then selecting Images brings up a number of photos of them in situ, as well as this image

picture

which will be of great help in scratchbuilding.

Pete

Ivan DBA19 Jan 2014 1:18 p.m. PST

Looks like something the Quar would use too!

jgibbons19 Jan 2014 6:15 p.m. PST

My first thought was "Dalek" too….

tuscaloosa20 Jan 2014 7:55 a.m. PST

So glad you got photographs. Great research.

Stepman320 Jan 2014 8:44 a.m. PST

Dalek…

mrinku21 Jan 2014 2:17 p.m. PST

Every time I play World of Tanks, I think "Dalek". Pretty much any turret does it.

J Womack 9421 Jan 2014 9:29 p.m. PST

Interesting.

Very interesting.

TheBeast Supporting Member of TMP23 Jan 2014 9:37 a.m. PST

My first thought was "Dalek" too….

And the rest of us are cursing Fred for saying it first. ;->=

Thanks, Guthrock!

Doug

BlackWidowPilot Fezian24 Jan 2014 3:15 p.m. PST

How do you say "EXTERRRMINATE!!!" in Bulgarian?evil grin

Leland R. Erickson
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WarpSpeed24 Jan 2014 9:43 p.m. PST

Looks like the goblin contraption from Labyrinth.

snodipous27 Jan 2014 12:46 p.m. PST

Looks like something the Quar would use too!

That's the first thing I thought too!

Ian Dury09 Feb 2014 8:57 a.m. PST

If anyone is interested, I wrote a booklet on these for the Continental Was Society a couple of years ago. I can put a copy up on Dropbox if people are interested. You can contact me at Ian dot dury at hotmail dot co dot uk
Ian

Ian Dury10 Feb 2014 3:24 p.m. PST

And I have just put the booklet on Dropbox for anyone who is interested
Ian

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP12 Feb 2014 8:40 a.m. PST

How do you say "EXTERRRMINATE!!!" in Bulgarian?

коля (kohl-YAH), maybe? There isn't really a Latin derivative equivalent like in English, but коля means impassionate killing. It's also the animal butchering word. A fairly decent equivalent. Plus it starts with a hard consonant; that's good for yelling commands.

Edit: My Cyrillic characters aren't coming across. It's "KO" then the "l" character that looks like a "JI" joined at the top (related to Greek lambda), and the "backwards R", which is the "ya" phoneme. (And, no the backward R is not an R. The R in various Cyrillic alphabets is related to the Greek Rho, and so it looks like a "P".)

Curufea12 Feb 2014 2:23 p.m. PST

Could be a browser or a website issue (in its metadata) for the usage of unicode charsets.

Porkmann03 Mar 2014 9:05 a.m. PST

Good museum and normally very quiet.

tsofian04 Mar 2014 4:19 a.m. PST

These were also used on armored trains

Guthroth04 Mar 2014 6:14 a.m. PST

Quiet is a bit on understatement. I was there on a Saturday, and apart from the staff, I think I saw one adult with a child and that was it.

However, I was glad to see an example of the military taking care of their own heritage rather than pencil-pushers bacon-slicing the budget until such places disappear.

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