dalemunk | 09 Jan 2014 3:09 a.m. PST |
Hi! I noticed today that somebody has their "Account Locked For Being Anti Paedophile". I find that amazing – isn't paedophilia, or at least sexual acts involving minors illegal in most countries? So this person has their account locked for not approving illegal activity? /Koen |
LawOfTheGun mk2 | 09 Jan 2014 3:40 a.m. PST |
Paedophelia in itself is not illegal, it is generally regarded as a mental disorder (see ICD-10 code F65.4). While it is true that most countries have for the protection of minors, not every paedophile gets actually involved in such acts. To equal paedophile=child molester (as many people do) could be regarded as an act of discrimination against persons with a specific mental disorder. I know it's a sensitive subject, I just want to offer an objective point of view. |
streetline | 09 Jan 2014 4:45 a.m. PST |
It sends an interesting message, at the very least. If I were an advertiser I'd be a bit twitchy about that sort of thing. |
deephorse | 09 Jan 2014 4:53 a.m. PST |
@dalemunk – how did you discover that a) someone has had their account locked, and b) the reason for it? I have seen other posts indicating that this information must be available somewhere, but I can't see where. |
Martin Rapier | 09 Jan 2014 4:59 a.m. PST |
Well, that is an exceedingly liberal view. In the UK the Sex Offenders Act 1997 defines paedophilia as a sexual relationship between an adult over 18 and a child below 16. I have no idea about the specifics of this particular account locking case though. The words 'can' and 'worms' do spring to mind however. |
Ianrs54 | 09 Jan 2014 5:26 a.m. PST |
There is a defence in English law – if the girl is 14-5 and the man is young enough, not defined, otherwise it is most assuredly illegal. IanS |
dandandan | 09 Jan 2014 5:27 a.m. PST |
Surely this is one of the editors typing "anti" instead of "pro" in error? |
dandandan | 09 Jan 2014 5:33 a.m. PST |
It's this account: TMP link It looks like the account owner has changed their name to make a statement on why they were locked, rather than the editors annotating it. So how can someone be banned for being anti paedophile? Astronomican is 40k site isn't it? Perhaps someone should ask them? |
dandandan | 09 Jan 2014 5:35 a.m. PST |
"I know it's a sensitive subject, I just want to offer an objective point of view." When ths issue is people wanting to abuse children as young a 1, I don't think many people care about alternative views? |
MajorB | 09 Jan 2014 5:38 a.m. PST |
It looks like the account owner has changed their name to make a statement on why they were locked, rather than the editors annotating it. Not necessarily. It is just as easy (perhaps more so?) for an Editor to change the Real Name field as for the user himself. In fact if the account was locked could the user have logged in to make any change anyway? |
Editor in Chief Bill | 09 Jan 2014 5:41 a.m. PST |
It looks like the account owner has changed their name to make a statement on why they were locked
Correct So how can someone be banned for being anti paedophile? They can't. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 09 Jan 2014 5:42 a.m. PST |
It is just as easy (perhaps more so?) for an Editor to change the Real Name field as for the user himself. Less so, as we've never had to do so before (until now). In fact if the account was locked could the user have logged in to make any change anyway? Yes |
The Hobbybox | 09 Jan 2014 6:32 a.m. PST |
Bill, Please nuke this thread from orbit before it gets out of hand, derails and turns into a flame war. I believe any further discussion on this matter should be Blue Fezzed. |
John the OFM | 09 Jan 2014 6:41 a.m. PST |
Where does it state the reason? I have NEVER seen a reason for a "Locked Account" listed. |
streetline | 09 Jan 2014 6:44 a.m. PST |
It stated the "reason" in the real name field – presumably a disgruntled ex user. It has now been removed. We can move on folks. |
streetline | 09 Jan 2014 6:45 a.m. PST |
and we mostly all fell for it. D'oh. |
Dn Jackson | 09 Jan 2014 6:51 a.m. PST |
Why are you going through the membership database and digging up something from 2008? This smacks of someone trying to stir up trouble to me. |
Doctor X | 09 Jan 2014 7:25 a.m. PST |
So the person who got their account locked came back under a new account, explained why HE thought his account was locked, and you are expecting it to be truthful with no malice? Really? Because I am the Nigerian Oil Minister and let me tell you about the fortunes that are waiting for you
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MajorB | 09 Jan 2014 9:08 a.m. PST |
In fact if the account was locked could the user have logged in to make any change anyway? Yes
I am surprised that a locked account allows a user to do anything. |
Leadjunky | 09 Jan 2014 3:13 p.m. PST |
Tar an feather! Tar and feather! Perhaps feather and tar for those wishing to explore an alernate view. Why are we even discussing this? |
Editor in Chief Bill | 09 Jan 2014 5:13 p.m. PST |
I am surprised that a locked account allows a user to do anything. In my innocence, TMP was not designed with a Locked Account function when originally built. When the feature was added, it was done so in a hurry (due to circumstances), and the vital need at the time was to block forum access to Locked accounts. |
Tango01 | 09 Jan 2014 11:29 p.m. PST |
Are these going to change Bill? Amicalement Armand |
dalemunk | 10 Jan 2014 12:26 a.m. PST |
I know the guy from another forum and was surprised to hear he was locked here. And when I checked on his username, I saw the message – which I assumed had been added by the Editor upon locking, at least that was what it looked like (I know, never assume
). |
Editor in Chief Bill | 10 Jan 2014 6:27 a.m. PST |
Are these going to change Bill? When we go to TMP 4.0, probably. |
badwargamer | 10 Jan 2014 8:58 a.m. PST |
Hmmm
guessing this is somehow linked to the previous threads where the editor was accused of having unhealthy reasons for hiring people (even though they were adults!)
.not that we want that topic to get resurrected! |
Tango01 | 10 Jan 2014 11:17 a.m. PST |
Thanks for the answer. Amicalement Armand |
dalemunk | 10 Jan 2014 12:50 p.m. PST |
@badwargamer: nope, nothing to do with that. Bill's an adult, those girls are asults, he can hire whomever he wants, that has nothing to do with me. |
badwargamer | 11 Jan 2014 6:30 a.m. PST |
Ah Ok
wrong guess. Must be some new delusional weirdo throwing his toys out of the pram then. |
DrJackson | 12 Jan 2014 5:32 p.m. PST |
Well I'm glad I read this thread, hopefully child molesters and Paedophiles get the protection from discrimination they need. Jesus wept. |