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JD Lee08 Jan 2014 8:35 a.m. PST

I am getting ready to paint two Ferdinand's and trying to decide on colors and patterns. I saw some video on YouTube and they looked like they had a base of a dark color (maybe green) with yellow blotches. Does this sound possible? Any suggestions ?

Garand08 Jan 2014 9:39 a.m. PST

I'd have to check my references, but I think it is the opposite: dark yellow base with either blobs of green, or a cross-hatch pattern of green over dark yellow. While the latter may sound like a bit of pedantry, what you use for the base color will determine what the dominant color on the vehicle will be…

Damon.

ACWBill08 Jan 2014 9:53 a.m. PST

Agreed with Garand, I have several references on this and all show dark yellow bases with a unique green overpainted camo pattern. The link below shows one, from Schwere Panzer Abteilung 654 I think.

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Frederick Supporting Member of TMP08 Jan 2014 12:16 p.m. PST

As of February 1943, all German vehicles were painted in a base coat of dark yellow (Dunkelgelb RAL 7028) with red/brown (Rotbraun RAL 8017) and an olive-green (Olivgrün RAL 6003) applied on top

Rudi the german08 Jan 2014 12:16 p.m. PST

Do you have ferdinands or elefants?
They have differant camos!

Please check.. A elefant has a hull MG and the ferdiand not.

link
The yellow with green is a elefant and they were not at kursk.

Greetings

JD Lee08 Jan 2014 12:44 p.m. PST

Doing a Ferdinand at Kursk.

freerangeegg08 Jan 2014 1:14 p.m. PST

Rudi
I think Bandai got that scheme wrong
The elefants in Italy were all in the 3 colour cammo, Yellow red and green. The Ferdinands at Kursk-as you say no MG were yellow with green lattice overspray
link
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ACWBill08 Jan 2014 2:28 p.m. PST

As I mentioned, I am not relying solely on web pages or modeling sites. I have at least 10 reference books which all show the scheme freer and I have. They were definitely at Kursk.

JD Lee08 Jan 2014 3:56 p.m. PST

So base yellow with green camo for Kursk?

(Stolen Name)08 Jan 2014 5:18 p.m. PST

Have look here plenty of piccies with Soviets next to them so would indicate kursk rather than Italy

link

ACWBill08 Jan 2014 6:50 p.m. PST

@JD Lee, yes. Dark yellow base, green lattice overspray. Almost all sources support this as the scheme used at Kursk.

JD Lee08 Jan 2014 7:19 p.m. PST

Thanks for the info.

11th ACR08 Jan 2014 7:35 p.m. PST

Here are a few:

picture

link

Martin Rapier09 Jan 2014 12:32 a.m. PST

As above, Kursk Ferdinands were yellow with the green lattice camp. All of mine are anyway!

ACWBill09 Jan 2014 7:21 a.m. PST

@11ACR – your link is not what you think.

Garand09 Jan 2014 7:52 a.m. PST

Whew! Glad I wasn't the only one then. Thought I had a virus for a bit there… :)

Damon.

JD Lee09 Jan 2014 8:14 a.m. PST

Yeah what the hell!

11th ACR09 Jan 2014 10:19 a.m. PST

WOW, that's the internet for you!

Let's try that one more time.

link

There that seemed to work.

Granted there are a few non Ferdinand – Elephants pictured that should give a few paintings ideas.

JD Lee09 Jan 2014 11:06 a.m. PST

Do you guys have any tips on doing the tank tracks. I am presuming this was a brand new vehicle when the offensive started.

11th ACR09 Jan 2014 11:34 a.m. PST

Germany's Panzerjäger Tiger (P) Elefant, SdKfz 184
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ACWBill09 Jan 2014 12:13 p.m. PST

Vallejo tracks primer base, dry brush gun metal gray, finish with a dry brush in which I mix a dot of each of the following Vallejo colors

Dark Rust
Yellow Rust
Copper

The mix is also good for mufflers and exhuasts. These GHQ Japanese Type 97 Chi-Has were done with this method.

picture

soflgamers.org

Garand09 Jan 2014 3:45 p.m. PST

When I do tracks on a wargaming figure, I base in a good dirt color, then drybrush with a metallic color.

Damon.

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