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mgdavey03 Jan 2014 10:52 a.m. PST

I'm working on a 28mm Thracian Army. I'm basically trying to make model it as a 5th-4th century BC Odryssian kingdom type army. I'm looking for figures for heavy cav. I have some of the Old Glory figures and I'm not crazy about them. Any suggestions for alternatives? Even some simple conversions would be welcome. Thanks.

darthfozzywig03 Jan 2014 11:01 a.m. PST

If only Stuart had his Thracians at Gettysburg…

LEGION 195003 Jan 2014 11:10 a.m. PST

IMHO,I would go with Old Glory. That is what I have!!! Mike Adams

mgdavey03 Jan 2014 11:11 a.m. PST

Sorry. Didn't mean to CP to ACW board, meant Ancient Prod Review board.

Locknar03 Jan 2014 11:12 a.m. PST

Foundry's Scythian line may do the trick. Also 1st Corps Scythians.

darthfozzywig03 Jan 2014 11:30 a.m. PST

Sorry. Didn't mean to CP to ACW board, meant Ancient Prod Review board.

Teasing. No apology necessary. :)

Dave Jackson Supporting Member of TMP03 Jan 2014 11:55 a.m. PST

If Stuart had these at Gettysburg…oh wait…if only Lee had Stuart at Gettysburg…

Personal logo oldbob Supporting Member of TMP03 Jan 2014 11:59 a.m. PST

Check Crusader miniatures, they have four different packs of Thracian cavalry. The two early one's might be what your looking for!

Mithridates03 Jan 2014 2:45 p.m. PST

You could also look at Essex Miniatures – they make a Thracian heavy as well as a General.

Cerdic04 Jan 2014 6:38 a.m. PST

Here you go! It's alphabetical so Thracians are near the bottom….

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JJartist04 Jan 2014 10:03 a.m. PST

It's difficult to find actual Odrysians in 28mm. I think Xyston made an attempt in 15mm, as well as others. Sadly Skythians are not really close. The Old Glory Heavy Thracians are about it, otherwise it's hunt and peck. I don't think anybody has recreated that old bell cuirass horned helmeted Thracian king since RAFM did them so long ago in 25mm.
Which look like this:

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These above are for before Alexander the Great's army, but who knows if the style changes-- although art from later periods show less fancy head gear.

Probably the best reference for Odrysians are in The Osprey on Thracians (which is a good one), and it has a reconstruction of Odrysians on the cover:

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So you can see that by doing some helmet swaps on other Thracian cavalry you might be able to achieve that look.

These are Getae-- so Skythians will work for them, but they are not Odrysians:

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And finally--- yes they are skinny OG but these are some of their better figures for later heavy Thracians:
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This Relic King has some bits that are useful for swaps:

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JJ

Socalwarhammer04 Jan 2014 12:39 p.m. PST

I like Crusader. My Thracian army turned out fairly well if I do say so myself.

Personal logo Phillip C Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2014 7:13 p.m. PST

I don't kow if this post will help, but these are my 18mm Xyston Thracian Northern and Southern Nobles…

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I used my Osprey Book The Thracians 700 BC – 46 AD as a reference.. more images at link

mgdavey05 Jan 2014 4:09 p.m. PST

Thanks for all the tips. I hadn't seen the Crusaders before, and those Xyston 15s are ideal in terms of equipment. It looks like the OG are still the best option. My problem is that they do like a little "pinched", almost like 1/72nd. And they don't have capes for some reason. But the combination of the helmet types and cuirass is hard to find elsewhere, even to swap. I have some and I think I'll try to give them some capes and maybe that will add a little presence to them.

I have that Osprey Thracian book and those plates you show, Jeff, and plate A that shows King Sitalkes is what I'm trying for.


Thanks again.

JJartist05 Jan 2014 6:52 p.m. PST

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Yes that's a tough one to find in 28mm… possibly a head swap with an Italian cavalryman with bronze bell…and add a cloak

pezhetairoi13 Jan 2014 7:01 a.m. PST

Crusader Miniatures has some armoured Thracian cavalry, very suitable for nobles. crusaderminiatures.com/list.php?cat=1&sub=36&page=1

I just received 2 packs myself. They are pretty nice, a little smaller than Foundry in stature, but detail and sculpting is much better than Old Glory.

Delbruck13 Jan 2014 11:43 a.m. PST

The Crusader figures seem to be quite Hellenistic. If you go this route you really can use most Greek and Macedonian heavy cavalry, especially those in Thracian helmets (such as Thessalians). Mixing in a few Attic helmets would not be inappropriate. If you have the ability, the thing that make them Thracian would be the stripes and patterns on tunics & cloaks. Aventine and Wargames Foundry have figures that could also be used.

BTW, Xyston's 18mm Nothern Thracian cavalry are really nice figures.

Delbruck13 Jan 2014 12:45 p.m. PST

A & A also have Thessalians with Thracian helmet, cloaks, and metal Corslet (not bell though).

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I think Steve Saleh did both Crusader and A & A ranges.

Personal logo BigRedBat Sponsoring Member of TMP13 Jan 2014 2:19 p.m. PST

Hi Delbruck, I think that was Mark Sims.

LEGION 195013 Jan 2014 3:36 p.m. PST

Yes it was and is Mark Sims Delbruck!!!! Mike

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