"Grenz Artillery Batteries of the Adv Divisions during 1809" Topic

All,
Some of you may have read my post "off with their heads" to make 1809 Grenz artillery and I thank all helped me get going on a good start!
Unfortunately, now I need some more help because by research has "hit a wall" so to speak and there seems also to be some conflict.
First…. checking the TMP has not been able to answer the question in hand.
Second… it was clear the Austrian artillery arm had two depts.; 1) the gunners corps with red facing and 2) the handlers corps with lt blue facings
So this brings up the question regarding the Grenz artillery batteries.
Per the Osprey MAA299 the Grenz. artillery wore an older style uniform in white with red facings along with the wearing of the kaskett ( and the reason for Off with their Heads to add the Kaskett).
So now to the question …
Was the Grenz uniformed in white & kaskett as such per Osprey for both gunners and handlers?
Or
Did they more resemble that portrayed kindly from Matt(@MHP) link
where as portrayed by Mr Rocco's picture, the battery being manned with regulation uniformed gunners but the handlers were the Grenz uniformed troops (per the Osprey)?

I found a JPG from the site below.

link

Dear Greg
The Handlanger Corps were part of the Artillery. They were the non-specialists. They would be in artillery companies and not attached to the infantry.

The battalion artillery would have some specialists from the artillery attached (in artillery corps uniform), the rest would have come from the infantry regiments such as the Grenz. They would be wearing the same uniform as the rest of the regiment.

That is my understanding. The Grenz artillery would have 1-pdrs and possibly 3-pdrs.

Stephen

Rhino Co- thank you
Mr Summerfield,
You are in agreement to what was portrayed by Mr Rocco in the link… specialist from the artillery corps ( in normal specialist uniform and bicorn) with the handlers being from the infantry battalion in infantry uniform?
From that…. Since they would be from the infantry, the Kasket would be incorrect since they would be wearing the Grenz style shako and thus Osprey would not be so correct as shown in Plate C?
The battery would be more correct by looking like…. 1/2 the artillerist as normal Austrian specialist with 1/2 looking like the Grenz infantry of 1809?
Would this be a correct conclusion?
Thank you
MG

Dear MG
If you have 4 men to each gun then 1-2 should be Artillerymen and the other Grenzer.
Stephen

Very interesting. Appreciate the links. Thanks.

Stephen,
Thank you for the confirmation reply!

MG