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vexillia17 Dec 2013 6:54 a.m. PST

New blog post:

I have finally finished the six Irregular Miniatures camel gunners I bought earlier this year. I posted photos of the first painted figure in June. However, I was unhappy with the shoulder cape which I initially painted to match the coat. After a limited amount of research I decided it was more likely to be leather armour and so I re-painted the first one …
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Yesthatphil17 Dec 2013 7:53 a.m. PST

They look good to me thumbs up!

Phil

Personal logo The Virtual Armchair General Sponsoring Member of TMP17 Dec 2013 12:00 p.m. PST

Mind, zambureks were NOT fired "from the saddle," or on the move.

The rider/gunner dismounted, knelt the camel broadside to the target, and fired from behind.

Not an especially lengthy process, but they were anything but "self propelled guns!"

The only "correct" model of zambureks is that sculpted by Chris Ferree years ago as part of the original 25mm Sikh Wars line of miniatures where two separate pairs of figures constituted a complete set: One camel with zamburek and rider trotting along, and another with the camel kneeling, the separate gun capable of being mounted for firing to either side, and the rider/gunner serving the piece. The first set indicated the unit was moving, or at least not deployed, and the second for serious work.

Of course, it is a lot of effort to represent one of the least effective weapons systems ever, at least when facing a disciplined European style force.

But when it's also about COLOR, they can't be beaten with a stick! Zaniest bunch o' boys ever!

TVAG

D6 Junkie17 Dec 2013 6:17 p.m. PST

Very nice paint job!

evilgong17 Dec 2013 10:06 p.m. PST

I think some could be / were fired from the saddle like these

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You'd guess that getting off the beast and shooting would give you a better aim.

And the things were sometimes used in great numbers, IIRC 1500-2000 in an Afghan v Maratta battle where their close-range fire was considered decisive.

Any weapon system that spread from Egypt to East Asia from 1500-ish into the 20th C must have something going for it.

Regards

David F Brown

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Ok that didn't work, it was a pic from Wiki showing Zamburaks shooting form the saddle. I'll see if I can fix.

archiduque18 Dec 2013 2:50 a.m. PST

Excellent!!

vexillia18 Dec 2013 2:55 a.m. PST

Ok that didn't work, it was a pic from Wiki showing Zamburaks shooting form the saddle. I'll see if I can fix.

No chance! Wikipedia doesn't allow direct links to images.

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Mac163810 Jan 2014 3:45 a.m. PST

Nice Paint job Martin,

and you are going to use them in FOG-R games, I be'd intrested to see how they work out!

Mac

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