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Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2013 8:55 a.m. PST

Just got this picture from Niels at Westfalia. The postcoach we have been expecting for some time (and I am eagerly awaiting it) but it is good to see the open carriage (I think it is a curricle?). I remember there was the question as to who should ride in that. Answers varied from fat Spaniard Generals, through dandies of the Guards, but my favourites were full dress officers and ladies at DoR's Ball in Bruxelles.

We wait years for vehicles in Napoleonic era. Within a year we get ambulances, Berline, Sleighs and sledges, caissons and now;

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huevans01130 Nov 2013 11:15 a.m. PST

I can't wait to see driver and passengers made.

M C MonkeyDew30 Nov 2013 11:18 a.m. PST

Beautiful!

Skeets Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2013 11:48 a.m. PST

I am always impressed by his work and have quite a few already but I'm still waiting for a Landau to use for Massena and his mistress in the Peninsula.

Auld Minis ter30 Nov 2013 11:58 a.m. PST

It would be nice to see a full range of seated characters for the open carriage:
* a full dress officer directly from the DoR's Ball (British)
* Austrian (for Ulm and Wagram?)
* Russian touring the field
* a Spanish Generalisimo as mentioned
…or in words, an different officer with accompaning lady.
The lady and carriage being the same for all. Rather economical to produce and universially "needed" by every Napoleonic player!

Personal logo Mserafin Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2013 12:32 p.m. PST

I'm still waiting for a Landau to use for Massena and his mistress in the Peninsula.

I'd be all over this if it came with figures for Monsieur le Marechal and his mistress. It's exactly what I've always wanted for my army command stand.

Sparker30 Nov 2013 1:45 p.m. PST

Lovely sculpting!

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2013 3:02 p.m. PST

This is why I think this forum is marvellous, because the manufacturers do read this and maybe hear what we want.

Please, no more line infantry French in Bardin regulation uniforms, just marching holding muskets to their side! They may seem more commercial at first, but they are done to death, already, in 28mm etc……..

You will not make your fortune with sales of individual marshals (but there cannot be many who do not now have Perrys' Ney, Heymes and Levavasseur) but everyone is crying out for a full dress "different officer".

I want those Gendarmes d'Elite, I want decent Eclaireurs (2nd Reg), I want Chasseurs a Cheval of the Guard in the cutaway coat, I want horse artillery mounted figures for any country…any!

Duc de Limbourg30 Nov 2013 3:38 p.m. PST

and no more waterloo figures

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2013 4:32 p.m. PST

Unless they are Gendarmes d'Elite of Course……actually, most "Waterloo figures" of any nation will still find a place a little bit earlier in the Napoleonic Wars…a little bit, I admit.

rabbit02 Dec 2013 4:27 a.m. PST

I for one would like to see a Droshky, Russian open carriage, preferably including a model of the one eyed fat man (Kutusov not John Wayne) and a driver, apparently he spent much of his time on battlefields, surveying the inside of his eyelids. No he wasn't asleep he was thinking!

Possibly a small table with a small spot of luncheon would make a good addition to the ambience of the model.

Were he to be gesturing with a glass of refreshment, well, life would be complete!

Rabbit

Supercilius Maximus02 Dec 2013 10:25 a.m. PST

…including a model of the one eyed fat man (Kutusov not John Wayne) and a driver…

"Feel yurr handskis, yew sunoffa bitchski!"

KaweWeissiZadeh02 Dec 2013 5:44 p.m. PST

Rabbit – your suggestion is fantastic. I really like it and Niels was already picking up on it.

summerfield03 Dec 2013 6:57 a.m. PST

Kawe
I recall that the carriage was a four wheeled Landau design. Russian carriages of this type had very very small front wheels. Possibly the carriage was imported from Britain. Kutusov was a diplomat and an excellent general. He had been in the company of Suvorov for many years. His extrication of Russian Armies from difficult positions dates back to at least the Russo-Turkish wars of the 1780s.
Stephen

KaweWeissiZadeh03 Dec 2013 10:40 a.m. PST

Thank you Stephen. I also liked the 3D render you've sent.

rabbit04 Dec 2013 11:22 a.m. PST

@Kawe

Thank you.

if this gets done and turns out as nice as some of your other models, it will be fantastic.

I doubt if it will be ready by Christmas, however, I am a Taurus (April 20 – May 20)… Unlikely?

The wife is a Leo (July 23 – August 22) and I am sure she would love one for her birthday…?

Thank you in anticipation

rabbit

Duc de Limbourg04 Dec 2013 11:41 p.m. PST

Would love to see some Revolutionary generals for these carriages

The Dozing Dragon Sponsoring Member of TMP03 Jan 2014 7:49 p.m. PST

Pictures blocked at work….grrrr. Will check from home. One thing I find that lets carriages etc down is the pose of the seated figures – they never seem to sit naturally. Hopefully these are different and I will check when home!

The Dozing Dragon Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Jan 2014 12:32 a.m. PST

Looking great although now I see the pic from home and have re-read the comments I realise there are no seated figures yet……ignore previous diatribe for now!

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2014 1:02 p.m. PST

Wait on, they are working on that…the seated figures. But they have been trying to sound out the folk who contribute to this forum in earlier threads. I suggested that they could not do better than TMP. Bit disappointed by the scale of response, I have to say. Apathy rules. You all seem to just want French Infantry in march attack or weird Rhineland infantry from tiny principalities. Who should sit in this carriage? This is your chance!

Thanks to those who did bother though! I want to see so many missing figures from ranges, but, if we do not ask………

RichardHolling04 Jan 2014 3:06 p.m. PST

I want horse artillery mounted figures for any country…any!

I will second that

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2014 3:42 p.m. PST

Yes, is it not strange? You'll get a field forge, you'll get the ammo cart, you'll get the train hauling the guns….but the horse artillery crew who fire the blasted things? They are forgotten as riders.

It would be difficult to make French HA (from elite Chasseurs of the Ligne), "British" ..ie our lot, KGL, Hanoverian almost impossible, Prussians, maybe from Dragoons. No idea……..suspect saddles all wrong

Everyone seems to assume that the two guys you might see on a caisson are enough to serve a "battery". Let us see Horse artillery crew riding horses!

Archeopteryx19 Apr 2014 4:49 p.m. PST

Apologies for the necrophilia, but I've just received a battery of 8 pdrs, plus various caissons, wagons and cranes for the artillery park from Kawe. Just mind-blowingly wonderstuff… So I thought I'd add my two penny worth…

Definitely mounted horse artillery crews…

Italian artillery train drivers – line and horse – they had different uniforms to the Frenchies… You could add Italian Chasseurs a Cheval to that too (pretty similar uniforms)…

hobbled and grazing limber and caisson teams…

I would say a French 7 and 10 pdr howitzers, but I think Calpe have them cooking…

Congreve rockets – especially hat battery that went to Germany in 1813…

Foraging dragoons, and infantry cooking up a storm… fried onions in oil, and all that, with a rabbit and a goose for the pot…

Snoozing Kutusov sounds great, as do the ballroom emigres…

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP20 Apr 2014 7:53 a.m. PST

Don't apologise. The old gag is that I am into bestiality, sadism and necrophilia….am I flogging a dead horse? (That gag will make no sense outside the UK….bit like Blucher's pregnant with an elephant comment…it does not translate)

Hell, you got this topic back to the top and someone might take notice. There is so much detail on the Westfalia stuff that you simply have to take your time. The result is amazing, but this is not a dry brush French artillery green exercise. (My Humbrol tin is still liquid after 20 years…but I treat it like a French Red wine…..every five years I sneak a look and reseal it. I never use it, other than as a master to what is correct!)

Horses? I would be grateful for plain generic horses with simple harness and no saddle cloth/shabraque. Greenstuff would soon produce light/heavy furniture. But let's have them standing, grazing, rearing, jumping (no one does that), falling more convincingly etc……we get loads of action poses….

AuvergneWargamer20 Apr 2014 12:05 p.m. PST

Mes Amis,

Agreed that Westfalia stuff is fabulous and as regards mounted horse-artillery crew Calpe do some very nice prussian chaps including a well particularly well animated officer.

Cheers,

Paul

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP20 Apr 2014 3:58 p.m. PST

Calpe figures do just paint themselves. The casting is the best, the sharpest, I have encountered….even there, the occasional "turkey" can creep in, which is a bit 2D…naw, I'll take that back, just bend the limbs a bit!

Only got the foot and HA gun crew manning the guns. Must get the mounted figs! Been moaning about their lack, in any nation, for long enough!

Sparker20 Apr 2014 4:01 p.m. PST

It is a lack, and good on Calpe for addressing this!

kiwipeterh24 Apr 2014 3:01 p.m. PST

"I would say a French 7 and 10 pdr howitzers, but I think Calpe have them cooking…"

Indeed. These have been available for several months now … though they do not appear to have a presence on the Calpe website as yet.

FA2 – M1808 7 pdr. Howitzer
FA5 – 10pdr. heavy howitzer (for use with 12pdr. batteries) on M1808 carriage

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