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79thPA Supporting Member of TMP28 Nov 2013 12:07 p.m. PST

So, I'm painting some Hastati and Velites and I don't know how to paint the back of the shield. Was it bare wood? Wrapped in plain leather? Painted? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

LEGION 195028 Nov 2013 12:24 p.m. PST

IMHO,it was just plain wood! Mike Adams

Dagwood28 Nov 2013 12:27 p.m. PST

No-one knows the colour of the front, let alone the back. Plain wood is as good a guess as any !

Alanmac10028 Nov 2013 12:50 p.m. PST

Why would you not paint it in the same primary colour as the front? Possibly inscribed with devotions to their gods of choice also?

Alan

Cold Steel28 Nov 2013 12:57 p.m. PST

Some type of paint/varnish would be appropriate if for no other reason than to preserve the wood while in storage.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP28 Nov 2013 1:00 p.m. PST

@Alanmac: It is easy enough to turn that around and say, "why would you?" If I knew the answer I wouldn't ask the question. Do you have anything to support this or is it your thought on the matter?

rvandusen Supporting Member of TMP28 Nov 2013 1:15 p.m. PST

I'm not sure about Republican Roman shields, but earlier Greek shields had painted interiors and surviving shields from the 3rd Century AD city of Dura Europas had elaborately painted interiors. Shields before and after the Roman Republic had painted interiors, but whether the Roman armies of that era had them is unknown, but they might well have had them.

Marcus Brutus28 Nov 2013 1:50 p.m. PST

I paint the back of Roman shields the same colour as the front. I presume that the paint was a protective coating for the wood as well as decorative.

Coelacanth28 Nov 2013 2:46 p.m. PST

INSTRVCTIONS:

I. Look Fierce

II. Cast Pilum

III. Stab Enemy with Sword

IV. Repeat Step III as Necessary

Freely translated from the Latin.

Ron

LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP28 Nov 2013 3:18 p.m. PST

Doing Ceasarian Romans at the moment and I've gone for painted same colour as front, seems logical to me, shields are expensive items so anything that helps preserve them would have been done. As for so many things no absolute evidence just common practical sense is the only giude.
L

Shedman28 Nov 2013 3:19 p.m. PST

Pictures of naked girls?

Swampster28 Nov 2013 3:20 p.m. PST

I wouldn't go for wood. The Fayum shield – which may have been Roman or a copy of their stuff – had a lambs' wool felt covering front and back.

tadamson28 Nov 2013 3:50 p.m. PST

There is also literary evidence that the name and unit was painted on the back.

Temporary like Achilles28 Nov 2013 5:15 p.m. PST

I saw just recently that there is evidence for the back of shields being a brownish red, but I can't find where I read it now, so don't take it as gospel!

bilsonius28 Nov 2013 6:05 p.m. PST

"Funnily enough,while we must struggle for clues on the colour of the fronts of shields, there is fairly ample archaeological and monumental evidence for the backs of many shields being painted a dull faded red."

Phil Barker, Armies and Enemies of Imp. Rome, page 86

Temporary like Achilles28 Nov 2013 6:13 p.m. PST

That's the one Bilsonius. Good find.

Cheers,
Aaron

TKindred Supporting Member of TMP28 Nov 2013 9:18 p.m. PST

I spray the shields, both front & back, with a rust-red primer prior to painting (which I do before attaching them to the mini) and it gives, to my mind, a very satisfactory finish.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP28 Nov 2013 9:23 p.m. PST

Thanks to all.

Martin Rapier29 Nov 2013 12:12 a.m. PST

Red, based on Mr Barkers observations.

LEGION 195029 Nov 2013 4:36 p.m. PST

I think on the inside of the shield reads MADE IN CHINA Just a little humor! Mike Adams

Militia Pete30 Nov 2013 4:50 a.m. PST

Maybe the Judean Peoples Front left nasty notes like "Hey bug nose"

Alanmac10001 Dec 2013 1:38 p.m. PST

@79thPA, That wasn't a skit at you my friend. The reasons are many, as described on posts. It does look better and if I was to live a shield in the field I think I would treat it as a best friend. I don't subscribe to this idea that "okay this is a wooden shield and I must convey that message in my painting".
Best
Alan

The Last Conformist02 Dec 2013 2:56 p.m. PST

I painted the backsides of my legionaries' shields matt black. Since we're talking 15mm figures who hold their scuta close to their bodies, it's easily enough interpreted simply as shadow.

Dexter Ward03 Dec 2013 10:47 a.m. PST

Burnt Siena is a good colour for the backs of legionary shields.

spontoon29 Dec 2013 6:02 p.m. PST

Probably some preservative colour. Pitch, iron oxide, linseed oil,…

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