| OSchmidt | 31 Oct 2013 2:37 p.m. PST |
Do you prefer the music of this century to others? What I mean is do you like to listen to it over most others, and also the civilian and non military music especially? I refer here of course to the Historians idea of the "Long 18thg Century" Which emcompass' Lully and goes on through the Napoleonic period to Schubert? Do you listen to it often? I do. I drive 2 hours one way to work and I don't think I could make it if i didn't have a large pile of discs. Have to admit I liek the composers of the 19th century as well, though I dislike Wagner. Just wondering. |
| Timotheous | 31 Oct 2013 2:45 p.m. PST |
I certainly enjoy 18th century music. I still have a sizable collection of Bach, Handel, Mozart, etc on CD. If we have any music playing during a wargame, it must be 18th century music, as I find it relaxing. I can't stand music with lyrics, or heroic movie scores playing during a game as it gets tedious & distracting. That said, I do also like fife and drum music. |
| John Armatys | 31 Oct 2013 2:52 p.m. PST |
I'm a great fan of Handel… Almost always have it on the MP3 player and car cassette. |
| skinkmasterreturns | 31 Oct 2013 2:58 p.m. PST |
I have a disk of AWI fife and drum music somewhere.Brit,American,German and French tunes,as well as calls. |
 Herkybird  | 31 Oct 2013 3:09 p.m. PST |
Handel is good, as is JS Bach! |
| Timotheous | 31 Oct 2013 3:23 p.m. PST |
@Skinkmaster: is that the disc from Colonial Williamsburg? I think I have the same disc! First-rate recording, to be sure.  |
| Timotheous | 31 Oct 2013 3:24 p.m. PST |
Wargaming Heaven: playing Maurice whilst listening to Handel, Bach, Haydn, etc, and sipping a nice glass of  . |
| Patrick R | 31 Oct 2013 4:14 p.m. PST |
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| skinkmasterreturns | 31 Oct 2013 6:42 p.m. PST |
Yep-"World turned upside down". |
| COL Scott ret | 31 Oct 2013 9:52 p.m. PST |
Yes I do enjoy it when playing in that period or painting any period. |
 War Artisan  | 01 Nov 2013 2:01 a.m. PST |
To answer your questions in order: Yes, yes and yes. While I never seem to tire of Handel, I have tons of music by his lesser-known contemporaries . . . Jonathan Hebden, Unico van Wassenaer (yes, the grandson of the famous Dutch admiral), Georg Muffat, Charles Avison, Arcangelo Corelli, Tomaso Albinoni . . . I could go on and on. There is much yet to discover. Bach the Elder is in a league of his own. |
| OSchmidt | 01 Nov 2013 5:22 a.m. PST |
Dear War Artisan. Yes I understand. For me Mozart is sublime but the problem is that when I play it when I am in a game I find myself wanting to stop playing and just listen and dream. As Timotheus said, a nice glass of wine with it is sublime. I like as well, Paisello, Bender, Stamitz, Hayden, Gluck, Scarlatti, and yes-- even Salieri. All of the Bachs are of course excellent. While I like Mozart intensely (and listen to his Operas all the time) I think that the epitome of the 18th century ethos in music has to be Hayden's Symphony No 101, the second movement which gives it it's nickame "The Clock." Thank you by the way, War Artisan, for the other names. I will look them up "Wassenaer, and Hebden. There are hudreds. We must also mention Schubert even though he is at the very end of the period. Of course-- my favorite movie is Barry Lyndon. I really don't care about the story, the main character is after all somewhat repellent, but the cinematography combined with the music is literally for me audio visual drugs. I am fascinated how in almost every scene Kubrick works the camera so that it looks like there OUGHT to be a painting that is the image of that, somewhere in some museum of the world. The scene where Lyndon's mother has her drunken son carrying out to his bed could have been right out of Hogarth, and so too the scene of the "gambling hell" by candlelight. Yes the scene of the drilling of the company, the dances, and it's all just wonderful. Amadeus is good too. It's not a true that Salieri conspired at Mozart's death, but they were rivals. Actually if you read Salieri's biography he's a rather nice person. |
 Der Alte Fritz | 01 Nov 2013 11:12 a.m. PST |
I listen to Mozart, Handel and Bach while I paint; also several CDs of 18th Century Prussian military marches, Fife & drum music, and 18th Century folk music. "The World Turned Upside Down" by Barry Phillips & Friends is one of my favorite CDs. |
| abdul666lw | 03 Nov 2013 10:22 a.m. PST |
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| Prince Lupus | 14 Nov 2013 12:27 p.m. PST |
Absolutely. Surely the long eighteenth century begins in 1685, the year of birth of Handel and JSB. My most listened to are the smaller, "chamber" pieces of Mozart and Haydn. One serendipitous moment I had was on a visit to York Minster and discovered Bach's St Matthew Passion about to begin – sublime. (I do have a penchant for early C20 English pastoralists which may fuel my planned WW1 project) |
| OSchmidt | 14 Nov 2013 1:23 p.m. PST |
Dear Prince Lupus. That is a good definition of "The Long 18th century" and as valid as any oher. Congratulations on your good fortne on the St. Matthew Passion. Of course though the chamber pieces are the most wonderful.
I have a weakness too for some 19th century composers as well, Suppe, Rossini, Verdi, Nicolai, Offenbach, and Weber, but these are close enough that they can sneak into the tent though a purist will catch them in a heartbeat.
No Wagner though! No Luftwaffe Lullaby (Ride of the Valkyries) for me. Awww how can you connect the English Pastoralists with WWI? That's seems just wrong. I find myself in the 18th century planning more grand Fete's and balls, and wondering when Eureka is going to make a few hundred figures doing the Contretanz and Minuette rather than a new regiment. You of course have heard Neubauer's "Battalia" and Mozarts Contretanz in honor of Prince Josias of Saxe Coburg for the battle of Martinsee? |
| Edwulf | 15 Nov 2013 3:05 a.m. PST |
I like English and Irish folk tunes that date from this time and earlier.
I listen to some fife and drum music as well. I can listen to classical music and appreciate its beauty but its never excited me enough to buy CDs of it. My other tastes lean towards Rockabilly, Metal, Punk, Two Tone and Ska, Big Beat dance music or the odd bit of drum n bass. |
| The Goon from the Moon | 16 Nov 2013 10:01 a.m. PST |
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Did you know that new lenses were invented to be able to shoot candle lit scenes in Barry Lyndon? That's why it looks so different. |
| OSchmidt | 18 Nov 2013 7:08 a.m. PST |
Dear Goon from the Moon. No, I didn't know that! Thanks, Fascinating. I have always been mesmerized by the cinematography of the film. Recently, last year, during Hurricaine Sandy we were out of power for 11 days and we were forced to live by candlelight during the night. It is a serious re-orientation of your view to live in "a world lit only by fire." It is rare that a literary work work does well in transmitting that "view." One of them is Frank Lyn's "1789: The Year that Britain became Master of the World." Lynn, at the start of each chapter attempts to give the reader the impression of the subject that the contemporaries had. Particularly good in this aspect is his semi- chapter on Canada. To put it simply, Canada (or America for that matter) to the European is like Hoth, Dagobah or Tatooine is to us. |
| Franconicus | 24 Nov 2013 5:39 a.m. PST |
Joh. Ph. Krieger: Lustige Feld-Music, 1704. What an early 18th cent. Hoboisten-Banda played. |
| cae5ar | 24 Nov 2013 5:12 p.m. PST |
Wargaming Heaven: playing Maurice whilst listening to Handel, Bach, Haydn, etc, and sipping a nice glass of . Well said, Timotheous! Been there, done that minus the . Note to self: "Pack nice bottle of merlot with terrain, figures, Maurice rules and Handel CD." |
| Prince Lupus | 30 Nov 2013 12:47 p.m. PST |
"Awww how can you connect the English Pastoralists with WWI? That's seems just wrong."
I just find much of their music quite melancholic. Butterworth was of course killed at the Somme. His Shropshire Lad songs are full of melancholy.
They seem to presage the disaster to come. Mozart's contretanz is of course wonderful. By the way does anyone know Prince Louis Ferdinand's work the soldier composer who was killed in 1806. I haven't heard his music but it was a fascinating, if too short, life. |
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