Jemima Fawr | 09 Oct 2013 4:40 a.m. PST |
I expect this question's been asked a million times, but can anyone recommend any sources for free, downloadable floor-plan tiles? I was just thinking that it might be nice to dust off my old set of 'Sniper: Bug Hunt' again after a gap of 20 years! I used to borrow my mate's Space Hulk tiles and play it using those with 28mm figures (28mm Denizen Marines and Alternative Armies 'Helion' aliens), which was an absolute hoot. I've still got the figures, but my mate, while he's still got the tiles, now lives 200 miles away! I suppose that Space Hulk-style tiles might be ideal, though any decent floor plan that can be scaled to 28mm figures and printed off would be fine. Any suggestions? |
Jemima Fawr | 09 Oct 2013 4:42 a.m. PST |
Sorry about the title – fat fingers. |
MajorB | 09 Oct 2013 4:43 a.m. PST |
Borrow your mate's Space Hulk tiles. Scan them, print them out and stick to mount board. Voila! |
whitphoto | 09 Oct 2013 4:59 a.m. PST |
Then while you're at it go pirate all the miniatures you'll need to play the games too
There are plenty of deck plans you can buy without resorting to piracy. |
Dentatus | 09 Oct 2013 5:02 a.m. PST |
TMP link No, they're not free but they're inexpensive and high quality. |
MajorB | 09 Oct 2013 5:06 a.m. PST |
Then while you're at it go pirate all the miniatures you'll need to play the games too
There are plenty of deck plans you can buy without resorting to piracy. It's not piracy if they are out of print (i.e. 1st or 2nd Edition, not 3rd). |
MajorB | 09 Oct 2013 5:16 a.m. PST |
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Crankee Doodle | 09 Oct 2013 5:19 a.m. PST |
Here's some free ones: link |
Logain | 09 Oct 2013 5:20 a.m. PST |
Paper-make-it sells several print-at-home tiles for this sort of game. They have one set of pre-made tiles, and a super easy to use design program that lets you make your own. also try this link to BGG with some other good options: link |
whitphoto | 09 Oct 2013 5:27 a.m. PST |
Actually it is still piracy if its out of print. Someone owns the rights to the game and gets to control how its published, or if its published. I'm sure a company like micro panzer would take great offense to someone pirating his miniatures that he's choosing not to manufacture. If you are making copies of something you do not own the rights to produce it is piracy, plain and simple. Regardless of what version it is, if its in print or out of print, if its a bad sculpt, if the company has shady business practices, whatever. |
Kyn ell | 09 Oct 2013 5:27 a.m. PST |
Then while you're at it go pirate all the miniatures you'll need to play the games too
There are plenty of deck plans you can buy without resorting to piracy. It's not piracy if they are out of print. +1, I don't see it as piracy either! Comparing that to actually copying figures is ridiculous, SpaceHulk hasn't been available for many moons
. @R Mark Davies- There are some freebies on wargame vault that might do, and of course some cheap ones too, there's not a lot in the way of floorplans that are free generally but I have some links on my blog that have the odd few (but you'll have to search the links im afraid, bad memory!) thegrinningskull.wordpress.com/resources |
whitphoto | 09 Oct 2013 5:33 a.m. PST |
You may not see it as piracy, but the law does. Just because a company chooses not to produce something you want doesn't mean you get to steal it. |
Kyn ell | 09 Oct 2013 5:40 a.m. PST |
I'm not condoning piracy, i just don't see what's wrong with literally photocopying the spacehulk ones so you can have a game for oldtimes sake. Real piracy would be redistributing any files you made with the scans, I'd agree with you there, but not for a one off fun project. |
elsyrsyn | 09 Oct 2013 6:14 a.m. PST |
Real piracy would be redistributing any files you made with the scans, I'd agree with you there, but not for a one off fun project. So if I only steal your car once, and it's just for a joy ride, and I don't the give or sell the car to anyone else, it's OK with you? I mean, they don't make that model car anymore, so it's not as if I can go buy one at the dealer. I HAVE to steal yours in order to experience driving it. Back to the original subject – there seem to be a variety of relatively inexpensive ones available, but not that many free ones. If you really get into it, and feel like spending the time, you could make some tremendous 3D tiles with Hirst Arts molds. Doug |
Cherno | 09 Oct 2013 7:00 a.m. PST |
Also consider scouring the web for Virtual TableTop communities, there are thousands of free terrain packs out there that just need to be resized. |
Kyn ell | 09 Oct 2013 7:03 a.m. PST |
So if I only steal your car once, and it's just for a joy ride, and I don't the give or sell the car to anyone else, it's OK with you? I mean, they don't make that model car anymore, so it's not as if I can go buy one at the dealer. I HAVE to steal yours in order to experience driving it. How is this the same? How is a stealing a car like doing a printout of old spacehulk tiles? I really can't see any harm that making some floorplans from some scans of an old out of print game, compares with a twocking cars. Sure GW aren't going approve (like they do about anything) but since it's to play a few games in the privacy of his own home and be nothing more than a private project, i don't see them objecting too much either. Please lets not blow things out of proportion please folks! :) |
elsyrsyn | 09 Oct 2013 7:08 a.m. PST |
How is a stealing a car like doing a printout of old spacehulk tiles? Both are stealing. If you don't see that, you're sadly just never going to get it. but since it's to play a few games in the privacy of his own home and be nothing more than a private project Do you feel the same way about bootlegging DVDs? So long as they're out of print and it's only for you to watch in the privacy of your own home? How about CDs? PDF wargame rules? OOP computer games? How about recasting miniatures that are no longer in production? Please lets not blow things out of proportion please folks! Please let's not use proportionality to rationalize theft, folks! Doug |
Kyn ell | 09 Oct 2013 7:21 a.m. PST |
Ok then, my bad. I humbly appologise that I offended. It would seem that my suggestion to photocopy and print out of print floorplans for a game of spacehulk now puts me in the ranks of mass copyright fraudsters, car thieves and villains. Where would we all be if it were not for those good people who police the wargames forums for lowlifes like me. |
MajorB | 09 Oct 2013 7:25 a.m. PST |
Ok then, my bad. I humbly appologise that I offended. It would seem that my suggestion to photocopy and print out of print floorplans for a game of spacehulk now puts me in the ranks of mass copyright fraudsters, car thieves and villains. Um
me too, I think. |
gweirda | 09 Oct 2013 7:49 a.m. PST |
If plain floor-patterns would do (ie: without any pictures of stuff in the rooms/halls) you can download patterns from a place like mayang.com/textures , example:
and layer on your own grid? |
billthecat | 09 Oct 2013 10:19 a.m. PST |
I am now going to . I will then eagerly await for GW to come knocking on my door and try to float this one in court. Now, back on topic, there are lots of good options out there
in today's TMP news there is a set of 'space hulk type tiles' as PDFs on sale. Alternatley, you can build your own with cardboard, paper cement, and black primer/silver drybrush
very effective, but you still need doors
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Jemima Fawr | 09 Oct 2013 2:48 p.m. PST |
Cheers chaps, lots to consider – thanks a bunch. |
Toshach | 09 Oct 2013 8:24 p.m. PST |
There are plenty of affordable, downloadable SF floorplan kits out there. "Gun Crawl" by Mel Ebbles is the one I use most. Worldworks has a number of ship floorplan kits too. There are a number of other makers that you can find on RPG Now. Be a mensch. Support the community and buy a set. They are all reasonably priced. |
StarfuryXL5 | 10 Oct 2013 5:43 p.m. PST |
Both are stealing. If you don't see that, you're sadly just never going to get it. The U.S. Supreme Court held in Dowling v. United States (1985) that bootleg phonorecords did not constitute stolen property. Instead, "interference with copyright does not easily equate with theft, conversion, or fraud." Illegal yes, but not stealing. |