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drummer07 Oct 2013 9:52 a.m. PST

d6Junkie has got me interested in ECW, after you guys responded to his thread "Suggestions for ECW rules with the following parameters."

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So can any of you offer suggestions as to what regiment(s) I might like to paint? I am looking for something extra-colorful that I can find a paint-guide on. Bonus points for offering regiments who had eccentric leaders that would qualify under the "Maddening Subordinates" rules.

D6 Junkie07 Oct 2013 10:22 a.m. PST

I'm starting here!

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sneakgun07 Oct 2013 11:26 a.m. PST

Newcastle's White Coats, they died to the last man….

Jeff of SaxeBearstein07 Oct 2013 12:06 p.m. PST

For "colorful", a good place to start is with the flags:

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Which sometimes match up with coat color (and just as often, did not). So here is a link to the coat colors of most of the above flags:

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-- Jeff

Glengarry507 Oct 2013 12:09 p.m. PST

Colourful? For Parliament I'd suggest Lord Brookes Regiment from London, they wore purple!

D6 Junkie07 Oct 2013 12:14 p.m. PST

Which side you leaning towards?

Silent Pool07 Oct 2013 12:42 p.m. PST

Samuel Jones' Greencoat regiment from Farnham Castle, Surrey. Parliamentarian.

Sir Ralph Hopton's (later Lord Hopton) Bluecoat regiment from the West Country. Royalist.

John Adair's Cheriton 1644: The Battle and Campaign to read about them twos fallin' out. And others.

kallman07 Oct 2013 12:43 p.m. PST

I tend to start with the flags and then match the uniform to the flag. As Jeff mentioned the flags and colors of the units matched or did not but it is a good way to go. Both the Parliamentarian and Royalist were colorful until the New Model Army (really not established until after the war) that wore all red coats. We really have very limited accurate sources on what regiment wore what colors. And as campaigns drug on uniforms were replaced with what ever color fabric was available at the time.

Personally I like Fairfaxe's color of a red coat, with blue turned backed cuffs and blue lacing. It is a striking unit on the table. My current models have regiments in green, blue, grey, red, and black coats. Some units have matching pants or the pants are just brown or grey. One of my units has red coats with blue pants and who is to say such a unit was not so attired?

MajorB07 Oct 2013 2:23 p.m. PST

Which side you leaning towards?

I'm leaning to the left at the moment, but I might decide to lean to the right later!! grin

drummer07 Oct 2013 6:00 p.m. PST

Thank you all for responding. They are all good suggestions, and I'll be looking at all the regiments mentioned.

Which way am I leaning? Why, I am for the legitimate authority, of course! I thought I was clear about that.

Purple is cool. So is the red with blue cuffs and facings. Newcastle? I prefer Stoke City. They have more American players! That gives me an idea: Which regiment is most closely associated with Stoke City FC?

Supercilius Maximus08 Oct 2013 3:42 a.m. PST

Colourful? For Parliament I'd suggest Lord Brookes Regiment from London, they wore purple!

Didn't someone prove (in so far as is possible) recently that only their flags were purple, and the coats were actually some other colour?

MajorB08 Oct 2013 4:37 a.m. PST

only their flags were purple, and the coats were actually some other colour?

Oh dear. I have a unit of Lord Brookes regiment. I'll have to repaint them. Where can I buy a pot of "some other colour" paint?

Supercilius Maximus09 Oct 2013 10:57 a.m. PST

Given your name, might I suggest brown with red trim?

MajorB09 Oct 2013 12:42 p.m. PST

Given your name, might I suggest brown with red trim?

Oh! Is that what "some other colour" means? Why didn't you say so?

Mac163809 Oct 2013 2:20 p.m. PST

Be very wary of the colour of the colours(flags)for the coat colour, Sir Ralf Hopton's regiment had blue coats and carried red colours and Newcastle's army it's regiments in there undyed wool(white coats)carried colours of many different colours.
There are lots of characters in the English Civil War, the good, the bad and the mad.
At Edgehill Essex brought his coffin with him and Sir Jacob Astley 63 year old Major General of foot at the start of battle he prayed the soldier prayer"O Lord,Thou knowest how busy I must be this day. If I forget Thee, do not forget me"
and promptly ordered "March on boys".
Look up Sir Ralf Hopton and sir William Waller, John Lilburn, Sir Arthur Aston and there are many others.

drummer10 Oct 2013 7:04 a.m. PST

Thanks Mac1638!

Its those quirky characters that draws my interest to this period. I have already read on Sir Hopton. I'll be checking out the rest. I shall encourage everyone to play up their own eccentricities when we game, which I think will be great fun.

I am learning about this document called the "Petition of Right," and considering how to introduce the issues surrounding it, and the role of the King, to our club in a playful way, in order to add meaning to our games and perhaps help us learn a thing or two about the ECW. It's low-hanging fruit, since we are all Americans who are pretty much totally ignorant of the period.

I'm buying my figures this weekend. I haven't decided on a regiment or even a side yet, but I'll be sure to post the results when I do.

Mac163810 Oct 2013 9:05 a.m. PST

The 17th century is possible the most interesting time in British History and will shapes her and her colonies for centuries to come.
Try and stay away from the idea of the Cavaliers in there lace and floppy hats and Roundheads with there short hair in lobster tailed helmet and stripy sleeves,it all Victorian romance.
Hope you and your friends have lots of fun with it all!

DukeWacoan Supporting Member of TMP Fezian25 Oct 2013 5:27 a.m. PST

Maybe not exactly what you are talking about, but Scottish Clansmen and Irish under Montrose and MacColla. The battles of Montrose are small enough that you can field the entire OOBs. Project Auldearn is a great place to start.
auldearn1645.blogspot.com

Last Hussar27 Oct 2013 6:47 p.m. PST

"coloUrful"

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