willthepiper | 11 Aug 2013 3:32 p.m. PST |
Hello! I know that some will object to the words 'cossack' and 'uniform' being used in the same sentence, but can anyone point me to a painting guide for cossacks during the 1812-14 period? I understand that they tended to favour blue coats with blue or grey trousers, and that the Don Cossacks usually had red facings (and that other hosts could have other colours). Black equipment also favoured, but I'm sure I can go with any appropriate leather colour. Red lances for the Don host, how about the other hosts? Should I be looking at a palate of greys and browns, or would they be more colourful? How much variation and how much uniformity should I consider? My first batch will be Foundry figures, all looking quite similar. I've got more coming from Perry Miniatures, so they will be more varied in their appearance. Thanks! PS – these will NOT be Guards Cossacks, even though I've found a few sources for reference for Guards uniforms! |
14Bore | 11 Aug 2013 3:42 p.m. PST |
Their are a lot of uniform plates on line (writing this first off but will go searching in my saved library and post back) But you have a bit of a clear pallet here just follow a the few rules. They did seem to pick up stuff to fit their fancy. P.S. I'm going to do a few more regiments soon as well, you can't have too many you know. |
14Bore | 11 Aug 2013 3:49 p.m. PST |
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willthepiper | 11 Aug 2013 4:27 p.m. PST |
Thanks for the quick response! |
Nic Robson | 11 Aug 2013 7:35 p.m. PST |
For 1799, but I'm not sure things would have changed too much: PDF link Nic Eureka Miniatures |
willthepiper | 11 Aug 2013 8:37 p.m. PST |
Thanks, Nic, that's great. Here's what I did with the Eureka cossacks:
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11th ACR | 11 Aug 2013 11:48 p.m. PST |
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marshalGreg | 12 Aug 2013 5:45 a.m. PST |
11th ACR, Any idea which regiments received which banner in this link? link Thank you, MG |
Old Slow Trot | 12 Aug 2013 7:12 a.m. PST |
I've painted some in brown. |
Frederick | 12 Aug 2013 7:30 a.m. PST |
With Cossacks you have a pretty wide range of options – blue coats mostly, but you can paint them up pretty much any way |
11th ACR | 12 Aug 2013 8:07 a.m. PST |
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summerfield | 12 Aug 2013 8:10 a.m. PST |
I have written two books on he Cossacks, Irregular Cavalry and Opolchenie (militia) cavalry. Much of what has been written above is an approximation for the Don Cossacks. There was about another dozen hosts including Tartars, Boshkirs and Kirghiz. You can see the diversity from the extract from my books. Those lovely figures above are the most regular looking Cossacks that I have ever seen and never been on campaign. The cossacks were wonderful traders and looters. There is still the German prayer saying "God save us from the Cossacks." They would acquire uniforms and trapping. In one battle where "they defeated" French Cuirassiers, they wore for a while their cuirasses. The characteristic very baggy trousers are rarely properly scuptured in figures. link link Stephen |
Nic Robson | 12 Aug 2013 8:43 p.m. PST |
Stephen, We did take a lot of our information from your books regarding the Don and Ural Cossacks. You should have a look at the 'looting set', if you want more irregular looking figures.
Nic Eureka Miniatures |
11th ACR | 12 Aug 2013 10:26 p.m. PST |
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summerfield | 14 Aug 2013 11:49 a.m. PST |
Dear Nic Wonderful. Now these are Cossacks. Remember that the Cossack sabres did not have guards. These are regular cavalry sabres and interestingly look akin to the M1796 British Light Cavalry Sabre. The French had a three bar guard. The wonderfully painted troops above are just too regular in nature. They rarely had uniforms to speak of. I am almost on first of my book on Catherine II and Tsar Paul Artillery. It is going to be a Smoothbore Ordnance Journal Special. |
14Bore | 18 Aug 2013 8:15 a.m. PST |
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Condotta | 21 Aug 2013 7:59 p.m. PST |
Interesting post and discussion. The Perry cossacks are order, and these links will be useful. I am comtemplating ordering the Summerfield books as well. Thanks! |