"Forgotten Battlefields – Canadians in Siberia 1918-1919" Topic
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| Kaoschallenged | 02 Aug 2013 7:01 a.m. PST |
Forgotten Battlefields – Canadians in Siberia 1918-1919 by Ian C.D. Moffat "Unbeknownst to most Canadians, our fighting men in the First World War actually saw action in Russia in 1918, and continued fighting into most of 1919. In fact, during the Siberian intervention portion of this campaign, the British commander was a Canadian, Brigadier-General James H. Elmsley. However, the choice of going to Russia was not one that Canadians made independently, but, rather, it was a decision made by the strategic leaders in Britain, France, the United States, and Japan. Canada had an operational voice, but had little strategic influence, until the very end."
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 Legion 4   | 02 Aug 2013 7:27 a.m. PST |
Yes, few know of the thoses force involved there … as noted, The Japanese were allies in WWI … but many Russians remember their history and the "invasion" of their country … Many of the soldiers KIA'd there are still MIA … |
| Major Mike | 02 Aug 2013 9:59 a.m. PST |
Doesn't help that two US infantry Regiments carry combat streamers for battles in Russia. Yes, many people are ignorant of all the soldiers from different nations that served in that expedition. |
| willthepiper | 02 Aug 2013 10:25 a.m. PST |
The Canadians in Vladivostok didn't face the Bolos in combat (as they did for example near Archangel), but the CEFS (Canadian Expeditionary Force – Siberia) was notable for a few other reasons. One of the most interesting events was that the CEFS commander received conflicting orders from Ottawa and his British military commander – and General Elmsley chose to follow orders from Ottawa to sit tight in Vladivostok rather than advance his command up the Trans Siberian Railway to join Admiral Kolchak in Omsk. The Siberian intervention was incredibly unpopular in Canada in 1918-19, so in retrospect it was the correct decision – even if it denies us the opportunity to wargame Canadian soldiers battling bolos in the middle of Siberia! |
| jurgenation | 02 Aug 2013 5:12 p.m. PST |
the canadian artillery in archangel,performed herculian tasks with their 18pdrs.,saving allied troops on more than one occasion. |
| Legion 4 | 03 Aug 2013 7:06 a.m. PST |
Yes, Major Mike, I know, I was with the 31st, '84-'85 in the ROK … |
| Kaoschallenged | 03 Aug 2013 12:17 p.m. PST |
"even if it denies us the opportunity to wargame Canadian soldiers battling bolos in the middle of Siberia!" In wargaming nothing is ever really denied  LOL. Robert |
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