custosarmorum  | 20 Jul 2013 11:15 a.m. PST |
Does anyone have a suggestion for a color to use for the saffron color tunics used by Irish (and I am assuming Welsh from photos of painted miniatures I have seen)? My preference would be for Vallejo or Coat d'Arms but I am open to other manufacturers. Thanks in advance! |
| macconermaoile | 20 Jul 2013 11:27 a.m. PST |
Vallejo 913 Yellow Ochre is what I used. |
| custosarmorum | 20 Jul 2013 12:09 p.m. PST |
Thanks, macconermaoile! I was thinking of either yellow ochre or dark sand, but both seemed a bit dark compared to some of the photos I have seen. Still, I will do a test figure! |
| macconermaoile | 20 Jul 2013 12:20 p.m. PST |
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| kreoseus2 | 20 Jul 2013 12:42 p.m. PST |
Don't go by pictures of Irish reenactors. Some of the muppets we used to fight against looked like hari krishnas. |
| custosarmorum | 20 Jul 2013 1:26 p.m. PST |
Hmmm, Hari Krishnas… that color might work for some sohei I would like to do for the new Ronin rules  ! |
| kreoseus2 | 20 Jul 2013 1:54 p.m. PST |
We wore faded colours and they were in bright orange…. |
| RazorMind | 20 Jul 2013 6:31 p.m. PST |
I found the cheap Saffron craft paint worked for me.
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| custosarmorum | 21 Jul 2013 6:43 a.m. PST |
Thanks, RM! I have been looking at the Welsh on the Gripping Beast site where it is a rather muted or cream-colored yellow: link. I would like to replicate the color (I know I can't duplicate the brushwork…). |
| (Stolen Name) | 22 Jul 2013 3:53 a.m. PST |
INteresting as saffron the plant gives a reddish – orange colour- what makes it pale yellow? Does it just fade quickly? |
| Patrice | 23 Jul 2013 1:47 a.m. PST |
Orange – and green – were unstable colours on cloth. |
| Dexter Ward | 23 Jul 2013 2:56 a.m. PST |
I found that painting off-white then using a wash of Antelope Brown ink (which is a yellowish brown) gives a very nice shaded yellow which is pretty good for saffron. |
| custosarmorum | 23 Jul 2013 5:52 p.m. PST |
Thanks, DW. I take it the antelope brown ink is by FW? |
| Dexter Ward | 24 Jul 2013 3:05 a.m. PST |
Not sure who FW is?
The antelope brown is an artist's ink from Daler-Rowney |
| custosarmorum | 24 Jul 2013 4:05 p.m. PST |
DW, When I googled it, there was an antelope brown ink from a company listed as FW… now I see the Daler-Rowney ink as well. Thanks! |
| TamsinP | 28 Jul 2013 5:37 a.m. PST |
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| bobm1959 | 09 Aug 2013 5:39 a.m. PST |
The Foundry Ochre triple does a fine job of saffron |
| GurKhan | 05 Mar 2014 7:16 a.m. PST |
"One thing is for certain. The colour produced by dyeing linen with saffron is a pure yellow, not any brownish or mustard shade. This agrees with the 16th century illustrations of men wearing saffron shirts. The colour of modern Irish pipe regiments who sport \"saffron kilts\" is not the colour that saffron produces."
Thus the discussion at link As for the Welsh, "Edward, King of England, came to Flanders. He brought with him many soldiers from the land of Wales. In the very depth of winter they were running about bare-legged. They wore a red robe."
- from link |
| spontoon | 27 Jun 2015 2:42 p.m. PST |
I've always wondered whether the mention of saffron coloured cloth is referring to the colour of the substance rather than the colour it produces; hence a orangey-red. |
| MetalMutt | 12 Jul 2015 11:07 a.m. PST |
Hard to believe that saffron was used in 16th Century Ireland to dye cloth! A quote from GurKahn's link "…a great deal of saffron would be needed to dye a shirt the size of the legendary saffron shirts (25-35 ells). At $150 USD an ounce today, that would still be an almost impossible use. It would be less expensive to have a shirt made of pure gold than to dye a shirt with saffron." So I would think you are NOT looking at a bright yellow colour that the name implies in modern usage but rather an earthy colour like yellow ochre. Thanks GurKhan, fascinating link. |
