"What is just so missing in 28mm?" Topic

Prussian Towarzcys of 1806
Prussian Army of 1792

I have another wish to have French line Chasseurs a cheval…But it is so rare to see these in wargames on TMP. Does anyone paint them?

I would love to paint some (preferably in campaign uniforms) but I can't find any figures that fit. They're one of the most common types of French cavalry, but you can't really get them in 28mm.

French Line Dragoons in the older long tailed coat, in plastic, would also have terrific conversion potential. Grenadiers of the Guard, decent Dragoons of the Guard, Gend d'Elite etc………would open up a huge range of possibilities. We can dream.

Is anyone out there listening?

My understanding is that creating moulds for metals is "easy" (well……….)and cheap, but the materials then cost. Creating injection moulds for modern plastics is a massive investment, but then one can churn out the stuff cheaply…hoping to God there is that demand, or go bust!

That is why we keep seeing 1815 French…….

Mamalukes

Prussian Guard Infantry( with Plumes )

Plastic Artillery ( French, Prussian, Austrian and or Russian )

Plastic Hungarian Infantry

We keep seeing so much 1815 figures because most napoleonic wargamers are only waterloo-gamers (or only waterloo-interested wargamers/collectors)

Persians, and more Ottomans relevant to the Napoleonic Wars (i.e. more Balkan dress, like Greece, etc).

I am about to give in on the villagers/towns-people.
It would be nice to have a group that is somehow a bit more active I guess.

We've already made this little set with the peasant couple and the wheel-barrow. Might be nice to add more civilians to get a bit of a bigger and more generic scene out off it.

Edit: I doubt that nobody makes Chasseur a Cheval…

Note that Garde de Paris was asking about the pre Bardin look Cs a Chev. 1807-12. The long tailed habit, not the rig that Perrys for example do so well. Best thing about those figs is that they show them at rest. Which makes the horses invaluable for hussars etc as well……..

Still think it is odd. Ask what we most want (and find is missing) for a war period…and the answer seems to end up as civilians!

Front Rank used to do quite a few 7 years war civilian types iirc.
I imagine there are a few AWI types somewhere too.
Not a great deal of difference to Napoleonic civilians

Danes – very characteristic, short jackets difficult to convert.
Yes I know, Minifigs used to do them, but…

And another vote for Napoleonic civilians, and not just gentlefolk either: peasants working in the field or yard have a lot more potential. And civilain fashions had changed quite a bit since the mid-18th C.

1792 Prussian *cavalry* – Foundry have made the early Perry range of foot figures available again, but there are no proper dragoons or cuirassiers, nor really Prussian hussars, not to mention command. Mind you these are closer to 25 mm than to the current 28/30mm benchmark.

Engineers or sappers for anybody other than France.

"peasants working in the field or yard have a lot more potential. And civilain fashions had changed quite a bit since the mid-18th C."

I don't think fashion was much of an issue for an 18th or early 19th century farmworker.
trust me, a bloke working the fields in a shirt and trousers with or more likely without shoes looked pretty much the same from 17th century until mid 19th

Ah, but "trousers" is precisely the operative term here: not many would be seen before the very end of the 18th C., while their practicality ensured their swift adoption thereafter. Shoes may well be a matter of geography and climate.

But I should have expressed myself more clearly: The fashion remark was mainly referring to the "better sort of people" that most other posters clamoured for; representatives of the middle and upper classes post-1800 would have looked rather different from their ancestors of 1750 or even the 1780s, so the Front Rank range isn't much use I'm afraid.

Agreed entirely. The better off civilian fashion of the Revolution (1790s) or the replay (1830s) was very different to 1806-1815.

Gratifying to see that Westfalia are listening to the masses and may look at more civilians.

Wonder if any other manufacturers are out there? Eureka have at least given us the chance to express an interest in the Gendarmes d'E and, if we do put our money where our mouths are…and if they are anything like the quality of Saxon Garde du Corps……….fingers crossed

I don't think fashion was much of an issue for an 18th or early 19th century farmworker.

Spot on. Remember that this was an age where a lot of folk still made their own clothes, and such people would usually follow what they knew. There are contemporary depictions of French and Prussian recruits and reservists that have such apparent anomalies as tricornes, breeches and stockings (bear in mind some armies still wore these in the field under long gaiters),collar-less shirts, and so on. Some would not look out of place in SYW/AWI artwork.

The main sartorial differences for men were
- "rise-and-fall" or "stand-up" collars on (over)coats and jackets/tunics;
- turn-down tops on boots;
- tricorne to bicorne, and higher/more solid crowns on hats (essentially the evolution of round/floppy hat to top hat);
- and a shortening of the waistcoat from mid-thigh in the mid-1700s to barely covering the abdomen by 1815.

Ihave to throw my vote in with Confederation of the Rhine.

. . . and Ottomans!!