vonLoudon | 15 Jun 2013 10:50 a.m. PST |
Ed Mohrman gave away numerous copies. Now available elsewhere, I understand. Where are they rules being played, mostly basements? I haven't seen this rule set played at an HMGS East convention in a long time. The biggies are Fire and Fury, F&F regimental, Look Sarge, Brother v Brother, Black Powder. Don't see Guns at Gettyburg, OTR, Crusader ACW, think I saw one Mr Lincoln for Freddyburg Con. So where is the ACW at the 150th anniversary? And where is OTR. I would think it would be a convention type game. |
vonLoudon | 15 Jun 2013 10:56 a.m. PST |
I was typing too fast. These rules-OTR. Where is ACW wargaming? Where is OTR? |
cwbuff | 15 Jun 2013 10:57 a.m. PST |
Small group will play 3-4 games a year here in Indianapolis. Favorite of Murphy. Spent last weekend at Bayou Wars and played on five Johnny Reb games. Saw about four other ACW rule sets played. |
SECURITY MINISTER CRITTER | 15 Jun 2013 11:10 a.m. PST |
I don't know what they play here beyond the 2 versions of F&F. |
gamertom | 15 Jun 2013 11:51 a.m. PST |
The problem with OTR as a convention game is only one player at a time is doing something – the one running the command whose card or chit has been pulled. If you have a 6 person game, sitting around waiting on 5 other people to "do their thing" gets tiresome (and if your command is first on turn A and then last on turn A+1, you wait on 10 player moves!). The "IGO-UGO" style games do best as they move more rapidly. Also OTR is over 30 years old – the younger gamers (they exist as I see them at the Little Wars convention – granted us gray beards outnumber them) may not be familiar with them. So I think OTR is mostly a basement game these days. |
Tankrider | 15 Jun 2013 2:26 p.m. PST |
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vojvoda | 15 Jun 2013 3:08 p.m. PST |
I have seen it played or a version played at HMGS convention on the East coast from time to time. By far many of the hard core ACW gamers are JRIII or Fire and Fury players. On To Richmond would be in the top five or six from my following of the PELs. Paul Koch who use to do seminars on 20mm plastic wargaming from time to time ran games with his rules back in the day. Nach Paris for the FPW is still available on line: link VR James Mattes |
ColCampbell | 15 Jun 2013 3:42 p.m. PST |
OTR = On to Richmond ACW = American Civil War (1861-1865) Jim |
Ceterman | 15 Jun 2013 5:00 p.m. PST |
When we play (1 or 2 times a year) it's in my basement. Along with everything else we play! |
Calico Bill | 15 Jun 2013 5:27 p.m. PST |
We play about 4 games of OTR a year, at my home, with 3 or so others. |
Ed Mohrmann | 16 Jun 2013 5:13 a.m. PST |
At my house (but not for years), sometimes at a museum (by request) and years ago at conventions (but not since 2005). |
skinkmasterreturns | 16 Jun 2013 7:54 p.m. PST |
I have OTR(bought via mail order from The Standardbearer in Charlotesville,VA as an age indicator) but have never actually played them as an ACW game.I have played a Napoleonic variant,though. |
vonLoudon | 21 Jun 2013 9:50 a.m. PST |
Ed, I'm glad you separated your house from the museum. I just said on another thread, how old am I?! |
afilter | 21 Jun 2013 1:23 p.m. PST |
Well in the past year I have re-discovered OTR and taught it to my two Teenage sons. We are now moving on to revised/advance OTR. It is an at home (Basement/Garage) game only because we do not attend cons, but as an introductory rule set it still cannot be beat IMO. We really like the card/chit system because it simulates a bit of the fog of war not allowing units to always go in the order a commander might prefer. |
Old Contemptibles | 21 Jun 2013 2:41 p.m. PST |
I play them on my way to Richmond. Seriously, vonLonon you left Johnny Reb out of your list of "biggies". What is up with that? They have their own convention and I see them being played all over. There are dozens of scenario books written in support of the rules. What difference does it make in what part of someones house the games are being played. I am curious, are you taking a poll? I play in my garage because houses in the part of the U.S. I live in rarely have basements. What difference does it make? |
vonLoudon | 02 Jul 2013 7:14 a.m. PST |
Played some Johnny Reb. I shouldn't have to mention it or Fire and Fury. Goes without saying and I could not obviously make a complete list of wargame rules. My point is it should be a good game to play, hey beer and pretzels if you wish, but a good time. |
vonLoudon | 02 Jul 2013 7:16 a.m. PST |
Rallynow, the thread was asking since so many people have these rules, why aren't they played at HMGS conventions which are the ones I attend the most. Just an observation really. |
Ed Mohrmann | 03 Jul 2013 6:15 a.m. PST |
Von L., I used to run OTR at HMGS cons all the time. However, due to wife's medical issues, don't attend anymore, hence
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Buckeye AKA Darryl | 04 Feb 2020 8:49 a.m. PST |
I retyped Nach Paris and added a few things (mostly figure sources and a chart sheet). If anyone is interested, send me an email and I will send you the word file. preds81.ds at gmail |
HMS Exeter | 05 Feb 2020 3:04 p.m. PST |
OTR used to be the ACW rules of choice with our group back in the day. Johnny Reb came as a challenge and more than a few of our crew splintered away. Fire and Fury never really caught on with us. We knew about Stars and Bars, but the consensus was that it was just too much. In the end, a bastardized version of Napoleons Battles was introduced and our group as an ACW mutation and we embraced it. OTR is now old news. |