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pilum4010 Jun 2013 2:53 p.m. PST

I got a wild hair in my nose and painted a 54mm Anhalt Zerbst batallion for All the King's Men. I usually get all my flags from the Flag Dude and have been quite pleased with the cloth versions. I just cannot find a flag resource for this regiment. The Brunswickers/Hessians get all the attention! ANY pearls or links would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

Steve Miller
DFW Irregulars

PS: A flag resource for the Hessian Jaegers would be appreciated too!

AICUSV10 Jun 2013 4:57 p.m. PST

I don't believe the Jaegers carried a color

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP10 Jun 2013 5:34 p.m. PST

I don't know of any flags for the Anhalt Zerbst regiment either. It is just so obscure and did nothing but garrison duty.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP10 Jun 2013 6:14 p.m. PST

What John said.

Yngtitan10 Jun 2013 8:17 p.m. PST

Go to this link there is an image of the Prince of Anhalt-Zerbst flag. Right side of the page. You will have to manipulate it to scale etc. Hope this helps.
link

Dale Wood

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP10 Jun 2013 8:26 p.m. PST

Only as a last resort.
Those are identified as "personal" flags on the right (if that) and probably Napoleonic.
No one would use the flags identified as of Hesse or Brunswick in the AWI.

Supercilius Maximus10 Jun 2013 11:35 p.m. PST

<<A flag resource for the Hessian Jaegers would be appreciated too!>>

Jaeger did not carry flags/colours; the dispersed nature of their work and their tactics made them pointless in battle, and vulnerable to capture.

The two-battalion Anhalt Zerbst "regiment" was a bit of a mish-mash, having one battalion of what appears to be line infantry in Canada, and another of "pandours" (apparently recruited in appropriate parts of the Austro-Hungarian empire) who served in NYC. It seems unlikely that the latter would have had flags anyway, but there's no record of the line infantry having them either. Bear in mind that these were new units raised specifically for the war, and not part of the existing forces of the state.

As the OFM says, the flags on the link from Dale are the modern heraldic arms of the regions. They may – or may not – have a history going back to the 18th Century, but be aware that many such state flags across Europe have had regal/noble elements stripped from them since the early part of the 20th Century. The arms on the A-Z flag might have featured as the central emblem on any colours presented to the A-Z regiment, but it's highly unlikely that the regimental flag would have been as shown.

Here are the 18th Century arms of A-Z:

link

On a point of useless trivia, the ruler of Anhalt-Zerbst during the AWI was the brother of Catherine the Great.

pilum4011 Jun 2013 8:31 p.m. PST

Yep…that's why I like to paint obscure units. I just needed a break from the usual Lobsterbacks, Continentals and Militia. I'm also doing a converged grenadier battalion for the same reason. They'll look purty but will they fight?

Steve Miller
DFW Irregulars

PS: Thanks for all the pearls o' wisdom!

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