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desert war03 Jun 2013 7:55 a.m. PST

I was reading up on the aircraft carriers used durring the conflict in Korea 1950-1953. I noticed that the first two Essex class deployed with 5 tactical squadrons 2x panther 2x corsair and 1x skyraider. The later carriers on scene had 4 squadrons 3x panther corsair combo and 1x skyraider.

Did the later carriers carry fewer airplanes or were the number of airplanes per squadron increased?

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian03 Jun 2013 10:13 a.m. PST

I'm just guessing but the Panther and to a lesser extent the Skyraider are physically bigger and changing the mix would reduce the absolute number of aircraft that could be handled.

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP03 Jun 2013 11:24 a.m. PST

I think the main factor was the adoption of specialist detachments – squadrons were usually 16-18 aircraft, but at the start of the war an air group was simply fighter squadrons and attack squadrons. Later on a typical air group also had a night fighter detachment, a night attack detachment, a photo recon detachment, an ECM detachment, an AEW detachment, and a rescue chopper or two. All those specialist detachments pretty much added up to a squadron between them.

desert war03 Jun 2013 2:10 p.m. PST

According to this link link
The first two valley forge and Philippine sea had the detachment planes as well as 5 tactical Vf and va squadrons. I read the reduction in number of squadrons was because Congress only allowed a certain number of them. But I was wondering if the navy increased the number of planes per squadron or just took a reduction. In the number of airplanes. Or if perhaps they made either the corsair or jet squadions bigger. Like in the royal navy carriers the sea fury squadron had around 20 planes ans the firefly squadron had 12.

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP03 Jun 2013 3:24 p.m. PST

Well Hallion's The Naval Air War in Korea gives a typical air group as:

18 jet squadron.
16 Corsair squadron x2
16 Skyraider squadron
3 Night fighters
3 Night attack
2 ELINT
3 photo recce
3 AEW
1 rescue chopper

81 total air group.

Later on a second jet squadron replacing a Corsair squadron increasingly the norm.

Toshach03 Jun 2013 7:11 p.m. PST

I wonder if the reorg was the product of attrition and slow arrival of replacements and parts for the Panthers and Panther pilots. Flying jets off of aircraft carriers was a pretty new thing, as were the jets. I'm guessing the Panthers also had a much lower flight time to maintenance ratio than did the Corsairs.

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