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21 May 2013 4:16 a.m. PST
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St Anselm21 May 2013 3:47 a.m. PST

hi there,

Just wondered if there was an up to date buyers guide for 6mm vehicles for Hammers Slammers?.. I have some stuff from Old Crow but would like to expand. I have the guide from the Slammers site but need a real idiots guide.

your help would be much appreciated

Failure1621 May 2013 5:32 a.m. PST

Hello,

Some time ago I did up a complete listing that I e-mailed to John Treadaway. I cannot find it, but below are the first few pages of the book detailed to one degree or another. Given enough time, I could recreate the original with more significantly more detail towards individual variations and required parts

Icarus M2 Blower Tank…GZG Heavy Hovertank w/ Deimos Turret

Icarus M9 Combat Car…TBD (CinC ASF-9 Light Gun Carrier 1cm Gatling)

Scania Dragoon Half Track…Brigade Models Polish Halftrack

Kanagawa Goanna 6x6…IWM Swiftwind Scout Car

Kanagawa Gecko…TBD

Thyssen Glaive/Gladius…Brigade Models Rosomakha LT or
Microarmor M113/FV430-series

GD266 6-Wheel Lorry…Brigade Models Hippo Heavy Truck

Halberd/Black Skorpion TD…TBD (Brigade Models Mech Tank Hunter)

GIAT RA4-80…Microarmor 8x8 LAV (CinC Logistical variant preferred)

GD800 APC…Brigade Lynx APC, Hydra WC, or Artemis MICV or GZG Viper MICV

HALO HSAG1# Series…Baccus Human Medium [Grav] Tank

Icarus/Thyssen Md. H. Tank…Brigade Models Hermes Light Tank

Sabre Tank…Brigade Models Bizon MBT

Trojan/Slingshot 6x6…Microarmor LAV (Canadian Husky preferred)

Icarus M12 TD…TBD

Marzak Hades…GZG Gladiator Light Hover Tank

Marzak Panthere…GZG Goliath Hover Tank

Marzak Epee APC…GZG Gauntlet or Brigade Models Tassigny APC

Marzak CN44 Jeep…GZG Light Hover Jeep

Marzak R3P ACV…GZG Gauntlet or Brigade Models Lynx APC

Covasna Bihor Tank…GZG Paladin

Covasna Alba APC…GZG Phalanx

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP21 May 2013 6:39 a.m. PST

Yes, OLD CROW has all the Slammer vehicles that Hammer and his Boys use – M2 MBT, M9 CBT CAR/ACAV, CMD versions of both, M9 CGO, M53 Hog SPFA, 2 types of M21 Hover Jeeps, and Broglie's M12 TDs … I'm using GZG's NAC Infantry and 1 Man Skimmers for Slammer Grunts … Also check out this link and contact Jez at Old Crow … He has made other vehicles from the Slammer- Verse … TMP link Here's the OLD CROW 6mm Slammers I've completed so far (John was even nice enough put some some of them on the official site) – link I'm painting up the Infantry and 1/ man Skimmers now …

John Treadaway21 May 2013 7:54 a.m. PST

St Anselm

F16 and L4 have done a good job in highlighting some of the main contenders as Old Crow and Old Crow alternatives in 6mm (thanks very much chaps).

A lot of the main vehicles can be souced from Old Crow (with all of the "not having a real website you can buy from, do it all by email" issues not withstandng).

And if you can get what you need from Jez, excellent.

There are some excellent alternatives (as F16 has pointed out) plus some more I'd like to formulate, but it's still a work in progress (ie – its on my next two or three things on my list to do!).

One example of an alternative for the Legion vehicles (used by Heliodorus and several others) which might well be the Angel Barracks Pathmaster

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But, to be honest, I need to revise the buying guide for a number of reasons, not just the new alternatives for old forces but the new vehicles for new forces (6mm Brigade PacFed for TAS Lighter vehicles, for example).

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(Sure that's the 15mm one but the 6mm ones are out there too!)

Or the Brigade Models Suwaca half track for the Slammerverse users of that kind of vehicle:

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ie the Thunderbolt Division or the Ander's Legion.

And also, of course, the new 15mm Hammer's Slammers: The Crucible range from Ainsty link

It will get the guide done but I was really busy with the Salute game. And Supplement 4. And doing the new Antenociti 15mm range force. And my tuxedo didn't come back from the cleaners etc etc etc!

I will get on with a new, up to date, buying guide ASAP: thanks for the toe up the backside!

John T

St Anselm21 May 2013 8:21 a.m. PST

thanks thats brilliant!… I can now get started and get something together… I will keep an eye on the Slammers site for more and hopefully be in touch with Old Crow too..

as an add on question do any of you fine folk know of a supplier of 6mm decals.. I had some from Badidea ages ago but cant find them and Badidea are not producing decals any more.. I need some lions rampant!!

Angel Barracks21 May 2013 8:32 a.m. PST
Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP21 May 2013 9:54 a.m. PST

Thanks JT ! And AB I e-mailed Dom about doing some custom decal work … so thank you too …

St Anselm21 May 2013 10:18 a.m. PST

Thanks AB… couldnt find them.. my Fu is weak but have emailed to ask where they are!!

St Anselm21 May 2013 10:19 a.m. PST

Legion 4 let us know how you get on with the custom work… might have a look myself

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP21 May 2013 12:50 p.m. PST

Will do !

(Jake Collins of NZ 2)21 May 2013 1:12 p.m. PST

I'd really like to see some 6mm alternatives to the Old Crow combat car. I'm currently looking at the Scotia SF03 air cushion vehicle. Any other suggestions?

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP21 May 2013 1:18 p.m. PST

Failure 16 recommended:

Icarus M9 Combat Car…TBD (CinC ASF-9 Light Gun Carrier 1cm Gatling) Although I'm a fan of the Old Crow/Drake Approved version … but it really does not matter … your army should be your creation … as you like …

Angel Barracks21 May 2013 2:27 p.m. PST

Ah my bad, I never saw that you needed Lions Rampant.
My FU is confused…

St Anselm21 May 2013 2:46 p.m. PST

Ahhh fu…. but….. there are lions rampant!!!
Emailed Dom and he directed me to the 15th (Scottish) Infantry Division vehicle badges… Lions Rampant on yellow circular badge.. but around 2mm square so might be a touch big.. am going to get the measure out to see if they fit!

Angel Barracks21 May 2013 2:57 p.m. PST

I knew that, it is what I meant really….
I knew I had at least one use!

John Treadaway21 May 2013 3:46 p.m. PST

St Anselm – that's a useful bit of info!

Ta

John T

John Treadaway22 May 2013 2:59 a.m. PST

Despite the problems of Old Crow and websites that I mentioned erlier, I really couldn't recommend any alternatives in 6mm than the excellent OC range for the specific Slammers vehicles.

Other vehicles from The Crucible. Well that's a different story.

John T

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP22 May 2013 6:30 a.m. PST

Here ! Here !! thumbs up

St Anselm22 May 2013 9:37 a.m. PST

Is there any access to Old Crows 6mm range? cant remember what they have and what I need??

John Treadaway22 May 2013 10:07 a.m. PST

I'm told that if you email him he may be able to hook you up. His email address is on his website (that I helped him construct).

Don't get me wrong, everyone: I seriously want Jez at Old Crow to do well. I just want the Slammers stuff to not be held back.

Drop him a line and I hope he can set you up. The 6mm Slammers are lovely link , as L4 demonstrated in his superdetailed versions link

John T

St Anselm22 May 2013 2:09 p.m. PST

I have contacted Jez at Old Crow and got a very speedy reply and here it is:

All the products from the old site are still available and until the new site is ready you can view the old one here – link

The "buy" buttons don't work, but you can view the products and I am using the old prices until the new site launches.

the link works and it was good to see the miniatures again and I can add to my collection there. So as one question is answered it leads to another… I am still looking for Hover jeeps… so if anyone knows of a good 6mm variety that would be great or even if someone has a plan to make some in the pipeline that would be good too! ( hint hint )

again thanks to Jez for his quick and excellent reply

Karl

Angel Barracks22 May 2013 2:16 p.m. PST

There are some hover things tucked away in here:

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Failure1622 May 2013 6:38 p.m. PST

Amongst other things, I have used the SEM-10 Hoverjeep for Baffin/Broglie's Legion gun/mortar jeeps, the SEM-11 Jetbikes for Ander's Legion mounted infantry, and the SEM-39 Air/Hover pickup for Solace Militia Gendarmerie.

Great line, and the infantry fills yeoman service for a multitude of Slammerverse forces. Also, look for the GZG light hoverjeep in place of CN44 jeeps in use by the Francophile/phone outfits (Division Legere, primarily).

Covert Walrus23 May 2013 5:21 a.m. PST

Here's a possible replacement for Geckos and similar vehicles in 6mm – link

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP23 May 2013 7:04 a.m. PST

Thanks JT for the that ! And Thanks Amselm for that link ! And Jez's fast reply !! It's all good ! thumbs up x3 ! I'd imagine you could order the new vehicles not shown on the link by contacting Jez direct there …

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John Treadaway23 May 2013 8:02 a.m. PST

As far as I'm aware (last I checked) Jez had 6mm Slammers jeeps.

John T

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP23 May 2013 10:47 a.m. PST

That's where I got mine !

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St Anselm23 May 2013 11:03 a.m. PST

They are fantastic!! I couldnt see them in the 6mm section… love the 15mm ones… oh my wallet is BURNING!

Angel Barracks23 May 2013 11:04 a.m. PST

Should I be thinking about some 6mm Hammers Slammers style stuff then?
I don't like blower things, but wheeled vehicles I could do…

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP23 May 2013 11:13 a.m. PST

Thank Anselm ! And AB … you see what some blokes are looking for … so … you may what to consider it …

St Anselm23 May 2013 11:27 a.m. PST

Would somethink akin to the hover jeep fit in with the Junker line? off out on safari razor hound hunting? or a hover tug?

Angel Barracks23 May 2013 11:56 a.m. PST

hmmmm I don't like hover tech as in my head it seems less plausible/practical than wheeled tech.
I always think it seems less effective.

I think of it as a second rate tech.

So, yes maybe I could have some small hover thing as Junker stuff.


Razor Hound hunting, someone has been reading my stuff.
That makes me happy.


:D

John Treadaway23 May 2013 3:58 p.m. PST

Angel Barracks

Remember that the stuff in the Slammerverse is broadly split into two types: ACVs – actual hover vehicles and Blowers (really very low flying helicopters (of which the jeep is one).

Well, the jeep, tanks, combat cars and infantry skimmers (and civilian air cars) all use vectored jet enjines to get them off the ground. The military ones – which carry heavy armour and such – have plenum chambers to make more use of the bubble of air they jet engines create and so don't get more than a metre off the ground (the infantry skimmers are an exception to this).

But, of course, no one actually flies in the combat zone as – when you do – you get shot…

Other forces use Air Cushion Vehicles (and some jeeps have softer skirts and fall into this category).

But lots use wheeled and tracked. It's mostly quite 'near future' tech.

John T

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP23 May 2013 7:25 p.m. PST

If it flies … it dies … evil grin

Angel Barracks23 May 2013 11:43 p.m. PST

John, don't get me wrong, I am not saying HS is a silly idea.
It just does not click in my head, dunno why.
Same as mechs, they don't work for me either..

Just goes to show that I am odd, what sci-fi player does not like both mechs and hovering stuff….?


\0/

John Treadaway24 May 2013 1:37 a.m. PST

I know what you mean – not a big fan of mechs either.

John T

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP24 May 2013 7:50 a.m. PST

Agreed … eventhough I have some …

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