"New Stalingrad Movie" Topic

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Looks nice.

Pictures from the sets here

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Looks good, but why OH why spend all that money on sets and effects when a little research would help, A panzer IV with side skirts.. REALLY ! puts me off straight away..

Cool.

Looks like the scenery is worth the price of the ticket. Lots of terrain and rubble ideas in the stills alone.

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James Mattes

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Wrong Tank Syndrome alert!!!

"A panzer IV with side skirts.. REALLY ! puts me off straight away.."

Have you ever seen a movie with a Pzkfw IVH? Computer graphics are changing so quickly these days. You are correct about the Pz IV with skirts, but this is a movie and not a documentary.

I saw the preview and it might be shown at IMAX?

If I had to anticipate a movie release, this is definitely one for me to go and spend the money on to see.

I have me strelk boys from FOW and it's all about the Rodina!

URA POBEDA!!

As long as they don't ruin it with having a romance break out, looks good.

Hey – on a side note – does anyone make that fountain, in any scale ? It seems so iconic but I don't think I've ever seen one, in any scale.

It looks like it's directed by the son of the director of "Waterloo" and "War and Peace" back in the 60s -Bondachuk.

My God, that looks so damn cool! Craig, I agree. Miller, couldn't agree more…
Peter

The bricks in the brick-rubble stills have got no cement on them! And you talk of Panzer IVs with skirts?

I'm pretty sure the water in the river was all wrong too…..

Btw – odd outfit for the flamethrower guy.

As long as we are picking nits, that looks like a good way for a morar loader to lose a hand.

And, LOSE THAT MUSIC! Use the Red Army Choir.

Geez, TMP'er's will whine about anything. What was the last historical movie to come out? Would you rather see some Miley Cyrus or …..(fill in the blank). Uh oh – it looks like it might have females, or maybe even a love interest! Scary stuff!!!! Some people would complain about finding a $20 USD bill in a parking lot because it was too wrinkled….

"Some people would complain about finding a $20 USD USD bill in a parking lot because it was too wrinkled"
Hey that is my $20 USD and I can prove it becaue it is wrinkled so please give it back.
That is one thing that always bothers me about movies that have armor in them is that they need to do some research and make it as correct as possible. I mean it is not as if there was some speculation of what was there or not and it would not be that difficult to make something approximating a particular vehicle so if you are going to do it you might as well do it right.

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The wikipedia page gives more info about the movie. I doubt we'll see it released here in the US since it's all in Russian and German (Russian subtitles). Maybe in big markets that show such films.

I've been a wargamer for over forty years and the German tanks (whichever they are) looked fine with skirts(whatever they are) to me. Why? Is there something wrong with that? Will anyone really notice?

What about the headscarves that some of the women wear, are they using accurate 1940's patterns? Will it affect the film? As long as the story and acting are worth the money that's more important to me.

If it gets to be shown here then it will be a nice break for the overblown Holywood diet that clogs the cinemas .

Looks interesting but, like John said, ditch the music.

CraigH, I have one in 15mm, from somewhere in Spain, MIG maybe? I use it with 20mm figs.

Hoser

Tin Hat

Skirts are additions of plates or mesh that were fixed to the side of german vehicles as a supposed defense against AT mines and projectiles. They weren't around at this time in WWII.
Wiil anyone notice … yes !
I simply stated that if a company is willing to spend millions producing a supposedly historic and what looks like a good film, then surely a little money could be spent of a historian who knows about vehicles…
I don't think that is too much to ask, they at least made an effort in 'Enemy at the gates' by trying to have correct Panzer III's !

Loving the music, sounds like Louis Armsytrong's "Wonderful World" sung by Muse, fantastic, but yes, can we also have some tracks by the Russian Army choir, the original national anthem sung by them is truly epic and never fails to bring a lump to the throat.

The film is by the director of 9th Company which is a eulogy to the lost generation in Afghanistan and is also brilliant, this should on track record to date be a brilliant movie and fitting tribute to soldiers and civilians of both sides. iF you want to check out a brilliant documentary for the facts, look no further than this

Part 1 – The Attack – YouTube link
Part 2 – The Kassel – YouTube link
Part 3 – The Doom – YouTube link

Well worth a look, cheers

maybe they put those tanks in because they look cool and they are making a movie.

I guess the gap between those who notice and those who care to be significant.

Looks like a great film – tho I do agree if you are going to spend a small fortune on CGI you could at least make sure the tanks were accurate – we are not talking M-48,s and Chafees with crosses painted on here

AND did you see the teddy bear with the plastic nose? Those didn't come out until the late 1950s sheez.

Well then in 7 years I'll watch it on You Tube with no sub-titles and probably will still love it.

Here is a news flash – they are not making the movie to appeal to pendantic wargamers like us.

Here is a news flash – they are not making the movie to appeal to pedantic wargamers like us.

Have they ever?
People like us should never be allowed to have a say in what movies are made, or how.
Win Powerball and e prepared to blow the whole $350 USD million if you want to have a say, and be prepared to have a return of maybe $1 USD million. If that.

From the trailer "In war there is love"…..because Stalingrad is so romantic. What would people say if we started splicing in scenes of graphic violence and killing into chick flicks and romance movies? There would be outrage. So why oh why does every war movie have to be spoiled with a romance plot? It's absurd and perverse.

So why oh why does every war movie have to be spoiled with a romance plot? It's absurd and perverse.

To appeal to the female demographic (not to say women can't enjoy a war movie, but…) and sell more tickets?

I agree war movies do not need to have a "romance" component, since there is plenty to explore about war without it.

Damon.

Wonder how long till we see it in the US

There is only one reason for a high budget to be made. That is to attract young males taking their female friends to the movies in hope of getting laid that night.
the hope is that they will also spend a lot of money on that fabulous money making scheme, movie theater popcorn and soda. What a markup!

For said young female to agree to let the young male to escort here to this movie, you need romance.
Thus, Vasily Zaetzev needed to get laid in "Enemy at the Gates". This gave the young male viewer both the needed romance to appease his girlfriend who got dragged to "not another war movie", but it was also an encouragement for later activities.

In today's movie market, "kissing and stuff" is needed.

I agree war movies do not need to have a "romance" component, since there is plenty to explore about war without it.

"Explore"? Are you serious? This is Hollywood! (Or the Russian equivalent…)

Women is scary. (Evidently)

And then there was the recent "Alamo" which was fairly good history, looked right and a ho-hum movie.

It certainly had a vibe about it.

Hitler giving his no surrender order.

Hitler giving his no surrender order.

I'm fairly certain the Nazi hierarchy didn't use golden codpieces with chain accessories until late 1943 at the earliest.

Well, Mc, there is some documentary evidence of Göring using chains and pantyhose as early as December 1940. And of Hitler wearing a piercing in his left nipple. See Osprey MAA 896 "Chains and Piercings of the Lutwaffe" and MAA 666 "Kinky Outfits of Nazi Leadership".

Didn't the SS have a standard belly button piercing for all ranks?

Tank skirts aside (get it? aside? well at least I make myself laugh) it looks pretty good to me.

It would be nice if they got all the history correct, but it is a MOVIE!

"Chains and Piercings of the Lutwaffe"
Thank you, thank you! I needed a good laugh today. Love it!

How could they not use Katyusha? (or maybe they do)

High budget? They spent only $30 USD million, which is pretty small budget today.

There would be outrage. So why oh why does every war movie have to be spoiled with a romance plot? It's absurd and perverse.

Remember, this film is based on actual soldier diaries from the siege of the city.

Anyone here read such Soviet diaries? Well, I have, in translation. They will rip your heart apart. They are so different from any other war diaries you will ever read.

If you read them and actually studied the personal aspects of the siege (not the Osprey technical BS stuff), then you all would shut your schoolboy gobs about the romance aspect being silly. Struggle brings people together, especially when the struggle spans months and months in a city full of people and families. People are people--not machines.

I didn't lose any relatives in Stalingrad like I did in Nazi concentration camps, but researching Stalingrad hit me just as hard emotionally.

I'm done with this thread. The silliness and asininity disgusts me.

that looks like a good way for a mortar loader to lose a hand.

Must have been researched on a sculpt by Italeri….

Hand to the side is one thing, hand palm down over the tube is quite another.