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Travellera11 May 2013 5:46 a.m. PST

I would be grateful for any recommendation on what miniatures that can be used to represent these. Thanks!

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP11 May 2013 6:09 a.m. PST

1st Corps make Marines from the ACW. I'm sold out just now, though….

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79thPA Supporting Member of TMP11 May 2013 6:18 a.m. PST

Old Glory25s makes a landing boat with a marine crew pack as well as a naval landing party pack. Since one of OG's specialties is not having pictures of their product you will need to call or email and see exactly what you get in the packs.

Rhino Co11 May 2013 6:28 a.m. PST

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Here is an Old Glory site with photos.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP11 May 2013 6:42 a.m. PST

Much more helpful than OG's site but there are still no pictures of the marines or sailors.

Whose site has the pics? It will come in handy in the future. Thanks.

floating white bear11 May 2013 6:42 a.m. PST

Thanks for the tip 79th PA, I thought I had been through the OG lists but hadn't seen that one. Did the US Marines or navy types change uniforms significantly between the MAW and the ACW? Regards, Rob.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP11 May 2013 7:46 a.m. PST

To me, the most obvious difference is that both services had different headgear in each war. The marines simply had different hats and a different colored/cut uniform in each war. A sailor uniform is pretty generic across the ages but the Mex-Am sailors wore Sennett hats as a uniform hat while ACW sailors wore a soft cap (don't know what it was called). However you still see a few Sennett hats in ACW photos. That said, I'd be more comfortable using a Mex-Am sailor as a ACW sailor than I would be using a Mex-Am marine as an ACW marine.

Travellera11 May 2013 8:17 a.m. PST

Thanks for your comments and suggestions. I have the OG stuff and it is unfortunately rather awful… The 1st Corps sculpts are a bit dated but have a nice uniform with the characteristic crossbelts. I guess the only available option is a conversion with the aim at arriving at something like these inspiring paintings by Don Troiani:

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Dn Jackson11 May 2013 10:07 a.m. PST

Yes, there was significant chnage between the MAW and the ACW for Marine uniforms. I THINK you can use US Army troops for Marines in the MAW with the uniforms being different colors. You can use any Frock coat/kepi wearing troops from the ACW for US Marines. The frock was a bit longer for Marines than army, but not too much and the Marines did on occasion wear their bayonet on their waist belt rather than on the baldric.

Irish Marine11 May 2013 10:56 a.m. PST

US Marines also wore a white cross belt with a center brass piece in middle. But other than that they looked like regular US Soldiers.

Travellera11 May 2013 1:18 p.m. PST

Well, the challenge is to find miniatures who has something that looks similar to those crossbelts. British infantry 1830-1840 looks fairly similar to the MAW Marines, I might try that…

Rudi the german11 May 2013 1:54 p.m. PST

And take a look at redoupt…

FireZouave11 May 2013 3:19 p.m. PST

Marines in the ACW wore frock coats, sack coats and kepis. All you have to do is paint the white crossbelts and put red trim on their standing collar.

Dn Jackson11 May 2013 5:28 p.m. PST

I've never seen a sack coat pitured or mentioned being used by US Marines. Frock coats only.

firstvarty197913 May 2013 12:48 p.m. PST

I would think that these Confederates could be "Galvanized" into U.S. Marines rather easily?

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Travellera15 May 2013 12:44 p.m. PST

Nice find!

Thats a good option

FireZouave19 May 2013 4:24 p.m. PST

DN Jackson, I've seen a picture of US Marines in sack coats with white cross belts. I was surprised when I saw it myself! I'll see if I can find the pic!

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