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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian10 May 2013 6:11 p.m. PST

Autonomous attack systems may be heralding the twilight of the aircraft-carrier era, but the venerable platform will remain important by returning to its pre–World War II operational roots…

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Generalstoner4910 May 2013 8:33 p.m. PST

I think if the US perfects the hypersonic cruise missile it will lead to a whole way that changes naval warfare… till then it seems s little gimicky to me.

Dark Knights And Bloody Dawns11 May 2013 2:02 a.m. PST

I can see the big guns returning although not in their present form.

An intelligent shell is far cheaper than an expensive missile which in turn is cheaper than an expensive aircraft.

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How long before 100 miles becomes 200 etc?

Tgunner11 May 2013 3:07 a.m. PST

So will it be the arsenal ship or the neo-battleship that displaces the carrier?

Mako1111 May 2013 3:24 a.m. PST

Neither.

It'll be the hypersonic missile launching submarine, with over the horizon/satellite/GPS guidance for the missiles.

Klebert L Hall11 May 2013 4:39 a.m. PST

So will it be the arsenal ship or the neo-battleship that displaces the carrier?

Probably won't be anything that replaces the carrier, any time soon. When there's only one navy in the world, chances of a major naval war are low.
-Kle.

wminsing11 May 2013 7:15 a.m. PST

It'll be the hypersonic missile launching submarine, with over the horizon/satellite/GPS guidance for the missiles.

I agree with Mako on this; the future 'capital ship' is going to be the tactical missile submarine.

-Will

Fonthill Hoser11 May 2013 8:19 a.m. PST

I was thinking the same thing about SSGNs, but the article makes the point that from a sustainable firepower standpoint thay are lacking due to the inability to reload missiles at sea.

Hoser

Dan 05511 May 2013 8:48 a.m. PST

What makes you think that, in a shooting war, the satellites will survive past the first 5 minutes?

Personal logo aegiscg47 Supporting Member of TMP11 May 2013 9:58 a.m. PST

If the satellites for all combatants do go in the first five minutes it will mean an even more lopsided victory for the US Navy than it currently would be against any opponent. They regularly practice recon and targeting without satellites, so that would be a massive advantage. Carrier task forces would be free from their "sailing in between and around" satellite coverage which would make them even more dangerous opponents.

Lion in the Stars11 May 2013 10:35 a.m. PST

And if the satellites stay up, well, GPS-guided death and destruction.

Remember that Tomahawk missiles are pre-GPS, and use a fairly interesting 'scene matching' guidance system for coarse guidance. The GPS systems bring their accuracy up from 'which building in the block' to 'which window'.

CorpCommander11 May 2013 10:57 a.m. PST

How about the hacker who disables a multi-billion dollar fleet from a basement while eating takeout? Cyber operations are going to be the most cost effective for the next few decades until we figure out better methods of pervasive cyber-security.

Augustus Supporting Member of TMP11 May 2013 11:23 a.m. PST

No system will ever be 100% impenetrable to hackers.

Hmm. Thousands of floater drones deployed by drone aircraft dotting the ocean, ready to send off hypersonic drones to do their drone nastiness to other drones whose recon drones never saw them thanks to jamming drones and drone attacks from hunter-killer drones guided by drone satellites?

Mako1111 May 2013 7:43 p.m. PST

From what I've heard, there are backups for the satellites, and that probably m3ans backups for the backups, hopefully.

GarrisonMiniatures12 May 2013 11:57 a.m. PST

No problems with hacking if the surveillence drones are on preplotted courses with constant recording/transmitting og info.

Likewise, hunter/predator drones that will automatically shoot on anything that match certain criteria.

Only thing you would have to worry about then would be signals the drones send back being jammed, or the integral radars used within the drones for interception purposes.

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