
"trojans in 1/72?" Topic
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| aapch45 | 09 May 2013 9:51 a.m. PST |
I want to do Trojan war for hail Caesar in 1/72, what miniatures would be suitable for Troy at the time? Plasticsoldierreview is so useful, but I'm unsure of "typical Trojan costume" (as their existence is debatable) I'm thinking about getting Trojan miniatures, and mixing them with Assyrian and Hittite miniatures, to balance the appearance. Also, for the Mycenaean Greeks, what, if any kind of cavalry would they have used in these wars? let me know. |
| CooperSteveOnTheLaptop | 09 May 2013 10:19 a.m. PST |
Atlantic used to to 1/72 'Trojans' (Mycenaeans, basically) No idea if they are still available |
| ochoin ceithir | 10 May 2013 4:41 a.m. PST |
@aapch45 Do you want to think outside the box? (pun intended) Use the Caesar Trojans & Mycenaeans for Mycenaean Greeks & the Caesar Mitanni & Hittites for the Trojans. This makes some sense if you agree that the "Wilusa" were an outpost of the Hittite Empire. |
| zippyfusenet | 10 May 2013 5:04 a.m. PST |
I suppose you've noticed that Caesar makes Trojan and Mycenaean sets, including chariots. One theory is that the Trojans were Greek-speakers and very similar in culture to the Mycenaeans. Trojan names in the Illiad seem to be Greek, and their military cultures well-matched. That could be authentic detail or it could be fiction. The Trojans were Hittite vassals and there could have been cultural influence on them from the Hittites. There's very little evidence either way. Assyria was a good distance east of the Hatti and not likely to have much influence on Troy. The Assyrian army dates from several hundred years after the Trojan War, well into the Iron Age. Assyrian common soldiers wore a lot more metal armor and wielded more metal weapons than you'd expect of Trojans, because iron is a much more common metal than bronze (that was iron's principal advantage before steel was invented), so you could equip an entire army with metal helmets, spear heads and daggers, not just the princes. Sea People warriors are much closer than Assyrians to the Trojan War in geography, time and equipment style. One theory is that the Trojan War was one phase of the Sea People migrations, another is that Mycenaeans and/or Trojans and/or other refugees from the Trojan War participated in the Sea People migrations (Ekwesh = Ahhiyawa = Achaea, Peleset = Pilishtim = Pelasgians). There's reasonable grounds for including Sea People warriors in your Trojan War armies. Any 'cavalry' in a historical Trojan War should almost certainly be chariotry. Horses in the LBA had not yet been bred big and strong enough to carry an armed adult warrior into battle. The only way to militarily use horses was to harness a pair to a cart and ride the cart, or to carry unarmed messengers or scouts. It was hundreds of years before the Assyrians introduced battlefield cavalry. Scythian warriors may have been riding horses somewhat earlier, but probably not before 1000 BC. |
| cameronian | 11 May 2013 9:11 a.m. PST |
My idea was Caesar Mycenaeans as Mycenaeans with chariots from Newline Designs (got impatient waiting for Caesar ones). Caesar Trojans as Trojans with Hittite chariots and spare Hittite troops filling in any gaps in the ranks. The Hittites taking care of their asset perhaps? In the pile of course, one day they might get painted :( |
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