"Early Austrian Grenz Officers?" Topic

I have some 1796-97 Austrian Freikorp Grenz who fought at Rivoli. Eureka makes the figs. They have brown jackets and white pants. I can't determine what the officers wore. I read somewhere that they were like Line officers in the basic white uniform.

Thoughts?

That is what Eureka themselves suggest. Their research for the range has been pretty thorough and I haven't been able to turn up anything different myself.

Guess thats where i read it. Just wanted to be positive. The officer in white next to the brown stands out for sure.

Don't know about that early, but by 1809 many Grenz regiments had rank and file in white jackets too.

According to The Austrian Army 1798-1814 by W. J. Rawkins, there is a lot of confusion about the colour of the coats worn by Grenz regiments in this period as some wore white and some wore Tobacco Brown, and there is disagreement between the various sources regarding which regiments wore which coats. From 1805 there were constant attempts to standardise the uniform as brown coats but this was not totally achieved until 1815.

He says that officers' distinctions were as for the line infantry but does not specify that they wore a white uniform. He does say that officers' coats followed the patterns worn by their line counterparts but this suggests to me the cut rather than the colour of the jacket. So unless I have misunderstood Rawkins I would say that officers would wear the same colour jacket as the rest of the regiment.

rank and file, as well as officers did wear the white coat during the Revolutionary Wars, the brown coat comes up gradually after 1800.
In 1767 – officers did really wear a cool coat.

During the French Revolution – blue trousers were commonly in use.

It's been a bit confusing. My OOB has Grenzer Regts that are basically in basic white with a few facing and hat differences.

Then there are "Grenz" in brown coats with blue Hungarian pants.

Then "Freikorps Grenzer" in brown coats with white pants. These are the ones I have the officer confusion on. Eureka says use Line Officer castings but does not specify color.

It is not confusing, the converged Grenzer Batallions of the French Revolution did wear white coats with blue trousers, other Frei Corps units did wear brown tunics.

The brown coats for the Grenzer come up later and were not worn during the French Revolution.

Wasn't the official uniform of the Grenz trooops white but the the so called "Hausmontur" brown.
So it would be possible that grenze troops could wear brown when the official uniform wasn't available, didn't reached front troops or in case of emergency they were called out and hadn't received their white uniforms?

all you ned is here

link

including officers attire

A very good article but

MILITARY BORDER REGIMENTS

"GRENZ-REGIMENTS"

1805 – 1809

The French Revolutionary Wars are a different story