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rvandusen02 May 2013 4:23 a.m. PST

Archaeologists have revealed a newly discovered series of defensive works in Scotland.

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korsun0 Supporting Member of TMP02 May 2013 5:08 a.m. PST

Very interesting!

religon02 May 2013 5:32 a.m. PST

Thanks for sharing.

boy wundyr x02 May 2013 7:58 a.m. PST

This is turning into a "line in the sand" sort of sketch routine… "Ok, now don't cross this wall"…2o years later…"Ok, now don't cross this wall"…30 years later…"Ok, we really mean it, don't cross this wall."

Huscarle02 May 2013 8:00 a.m. PST

Thanks, that is very interesting, not just 2 walls but 3 now!

altfritz02 May 2013 8:22 a.m. PST

Not a wall – a chain of forts and outposts.

Monstro02 May 2013 8:58 a.m. PST

Not a wall – a chain of forts and outposts.

…but with a line in the sand between them.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP02 May 2013 9:07 a.m. PST

This is turning into a "line in the sand" sort of sketch routine…

Bugs Bunny could have told them they needed to draw it a lot further south. Say, right below Cornwall.

"I darest you to step across that line!"
"I'm a-steppin'!"

*Splash.*

Come In Nighthawk02 May 2013 10:55 a.m. PST

They should be looking for a "military road" running the length of this "line" just behind the line of forts…

This "system" was nothing new. Following the early invasion/occupation of South-east Britain, a line of forts (and fortlets and signal towers too?) stretched along a line that ran "in front of" (northwest of) Dere Street, "anchored" in the southwest on the legionary fortress of Exeter and in the northeast on the legionary fortress of Lincoln.

Hence I say, where is a "military road" running the length of this "line" alleged in Scotland????? huh?

The abandonment of this line in Scotland seems consistent with all we know (or think we do) about the period subsequent to the governorship of Agricola. Pressure from the Dacians on the Danube (was this when Legio V Alaudae was wiped out and removed from the army rolls?) saw a shift of army units from the Rhine to the Danube, and it seems from Britain too. The army in Britannia withdrew from Scotland. And built…?

…Built the Stanegate, which initially served as a strategic road between east and west through rough country, at least linking two important river crossings and forts; Corstopitum or Coria (Corbridge) on Dere Street in the east, and Luguvalium (Carlisle) in the west. Following the full withdrawal from Scotland it was improved and more forts added and it became the new frontier -- with forts at intervals of a half-day's march. There are a few "fortlets" known, IIRC, but even today more work needs to be done on this strategic line; work made difficult by the subsequent obscuring of the terrain by the building of Hadrian's Wall…

Trajan's Via Traiana Nova was a line of communication running east from Heliopolis, on the Nile, through the Mitla Pass in Sinai, to Eilat and Aqaba, thence north past Petra, Philadelphia (modern Amman), Bosra (the legionary base), and Damascus, to terminate on the upper Euphrates at Resafa. A number of studies on Rome's eastern desert frontier have commented on the role of the Via Traiana Nova as a line of strategic communications behind a line of fortresses and forts much like Dere Street, "Britain's Third Wall (sic)," and the Stanegate.

"Wall" is clearly a mis-nomer for this "discovery." However, this sounds nothing at all out of the ordinary. It also sets the legionary base at Inchtuthill in an even better context, as the legionary "anchor" of the line. Wish I could visit!!! grin

skippy000102 May 2013 11:05 a.m. PST

Someone should do a Roricus Drift scenario.

Come In Nighthawk03 May 2013 8:01 p.m. PST

Shouldn't that be Roricus Driftus? wink

LeonAdler03 May 2013 9:39 p.m. PST

Ah the Daily Mail has just managed to catch up with the news……….that's been known for 50 years or so?

CooperSteveOnTheLaptop09 May 2013 10:25 a.m. PST

Any fule kno it's Driftus Rourkeis

Keraunos10 May 2013 2:30 a.m. PST

well 50 years ago is pretty cutting edge for a Daily Mail reader… you are well into the 60s by then.

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