"Not gluing down cannons" Topic

On observing that my 15mm cannons fit on my limbers I am wondering how many people glue the gun crews down, but not the guns themselves.

I do the opposite.

I do the opposite. I figure the limbers would be off the table, horses being darned expensive! No horse artillery for me!

I glue the crew but not the cannons.

79th,

Do you make the limber bases large enough to hold the cannons?

Spontoon,

Some scenarios require limbers, such as Princeton, of course they can always be invisible.

I also glue the crew but not the guns – my gunners have, regretably and certainly not in the spirit of artillerymen everywhere, been known to skeedadle and leave their guns behind

Neither. Gunners are on washers, and the guns are loose.

For 28mm AWI i do as OFM does.

For 15mm ACW I glue the crew on a base with enough space to place the gun which is also glued to a base. The limber has a space on the base to place the gun

Since I am a 28 mm person I do as the OFM. I know that my buddy Nazrat glues down the gun crews for Fire Ball Forward and has the gun/cannon removable. That way the gun can stay in place if the crew panic. I suppose it would work well for limbering the gun for horse and musket era games.

I do 40mm. I glue the crew, not the gun.

I glue the gun and the gunners to the same base, and when I base my limber I place it on a base large enough so that I can put the gun behind it and move both pieces at once.

I leave my guns unmounted for Carlist War and AWI with gunners individually mounted. The limber is on a stand with space for the gun. Lately I have been mounting cavalry on individual stands--I like the way it looks.

I do the same as OFM and whitemanticore. I thought of it first!:-)

I glue both crew and gun to the base.

I adhere the crew to the base and leave the gun free, so that I can attach it to the limber. I have limbers for all my guns.

Here is my SYW Prussian 12-pound battery with supporting matrosses, ammo wagons and limbers. Figures are Minden Miniatures crew, Berlin Zinnfiguren cannon, Front Rank ammo wagons, and RSM limber horses.

Here is a picture of my Fife & Drum cannon and limber teams:

Here are the Fife & Drum British artillery crew (firing and loading poses) with the gun models detached from the limbers and placed on the artillery stand.

I make the base and glue the crew but the gun is left free. If the crew's kiled the gun still remains.

Limbers and horses (err… and a few oxen) are seperately based and usually don't even appear on teh field.

I glue the gunners to the base and the gun to a washer. Also embeddedninmthe base is a magnet. The gun goes on this. The limber is another base with a magnet. That way I can swap the gun back and forth as needed.

Der Alte Fritz that Seven Years War Battle scene is almost unbelievable! It almost brings tears to my eyes and I am not even into the Seven Years War that much.

That settles it for me, I will be needing a ton of casualty markers and will also need ammunition wagons and camp scenes!

I now see the value of not having a limber base wide enough to hold the cannon also.

Thank you everyone for your input!

I glue the gun to the base and put the individually based crew figures in recesses in the base. Figures can be removed as casualties or can run and hide somewhere if threatened.

I glue the gunners to a base and let the gun loose, as to be able to place it behind the limber. I have limbers for all the guns.

Gotta love this place for questions like these!

I have done it with the gun glued down and other with loose guns. Mostly so I can change the Caliber of the gun without having to have one gun for every section in the ANV and AoP.
My AWI guns are all glued down as I do not need them separate for the limbers I use with my rules.

VR
James Mattes

I glue my guns and crew. I use one gun=a battery, so it isn't really and expense. I make limbers gun-less and mock the guns being pulled by facing the gun rearwards to the limber.

I used to glue the gunners and leave the guns un-glued, but too many people didn't get that concept and would inadvertanly mangle or drop the gun and damage them, forcing me to fix the gun or make it a "damage" gun marker.

Never glue my guns to bases:
use to reverse them out and slightly outside to show limbered, while the crews show which way they are going; In 18th cty games I also have limbers and the guns fit.

The other reason: you might want to change your gun types? and not have many crews.
In all periods I do variants to scenarios or historical oOB and then one day you get so many 12lb another day more 3lb etc. cheaper.
In AWI (mostly) I do have many gunners separate so they could go on fortifications nicely.

I don't do historicals in 28mm. In 15mm I glue the crew to the base and leave the gun free. If the crew runs off, I simply leave the gun sitting forlorn on the battlefield. This seems to work best for me, but YMMV as always.

Crews fixed and guns loose to be transferred to the limber models when… limbered.

Glue the crew and not the guns.

Nope. All wrong. Everything glued to bases with magnetic tape. I haven't enough lifespan left to finish all my painting much less repairs! My Limbers, I do own a few; are seldom actually needed in games. So, I have them glued to separate bases and if I ever have the need to actually limber up in a game, I'll paint guns for that purpose and glue them to bases in suitable positions. Most guns would be manhandled when in battlefield ranges anyway. Bricoles to the front!

Away with your bricoles! They didn't use them, why should we?

"A bricole is made with a leather strap a trace rope an iron ring and a hook and serves to pull the piece backward and forward. Bricoles cannot be called drag ropes which are used for a similar purpose in the English service but to which they have not the least resemblance neither can they be called straps nor these being only component parts of the bricole…."

Louis de Tousard, 1809
An American Artillerist's Companion: Or Elements of Artillery' page 110