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spontoon21 Apr 2013 9:52 a.m. PST

I was introduced to these rules yesterday in a wargame refighting Lundy's Lane. 28mm. They're pretty good, and have enough similarity to The One True Set of Wargame Rules ( WRG 1685-1845), All Else is Heresy!; that I'm undergoing a crisis of conscience.

Anybody else notice the similarity?

Maddaz11121 Apr 2013 11:28 a.m. PST

Not really?

Sparker21 Apr 2013 1:52 p.m. PST

No I'm not seeing it either. I am a huge fan of BP, and back in the day WRG, and only moved on because I didn't like the figure scale. Once you fully understood the move sequence a good set of rules for fairly small – medium size games, but not really scaleable because of the lack of fast movement at the operational level, which IMHO characterised the main advantage of the French Napoleonic army of the period…

Whereas BP is infinitely scaleable, and the game fairly rattles along, and, because of the emphasis given to C2, allows a small but well lead and mobile army to fight a larger, staider one. The ability to concentrate and strike on one flank, then march across the table to do the same on t'other. Not something I ever felt replicable with WRG….

advocate22 Apr 2013 2:45 a.m. PST

I don't see any similarities at all, spontoon. Care to expand? I'm intrigued.

Dexter Ward22 Apr 2013 6:16 a.m. PST

WRG 1695-1845 features single figure removal, and a deterministic sequence of play.
Black Powder has no figure removal at all and a non-deterministic sequence of play.

Can't really see much similarity at all.

ubercommando23 Apr 2013 5:54 a.m. PST

There's the command ratings system, which on the surface seems similar but although I had a copy of WRG for over 20 years I could never find anyone who would play it…always Empire, To The Sound of the Guns or Napoleon's Battles for them. I do think WRG had a dodgy basing system which BP improves on greatly.

spontoon24 Apr 2013 5:49 p.m. PST

That's the stuff, Ubercommando!

How could anybody prefer Empire to WRG? I could never afford the accountant and attorney that you need to get you through them!
As far as the removal of figures goes, WRG can beplayed without it if so agreed amongst players. I've done it when someone's figs are based differently.
However, I like to remove the figs as my battalions march forward to their inevitable doom!

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