| charared | 19 Apr 2013 9:26 p.m. PST |
Didn't realize before how much I've come to LOVE the stifle "button"! 
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| badwargamer | 20 Apr 2013 1:38 a.m. PST |
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| Gazzola | 20 Apr 2013 2:23 a.m. PST |
I don't know if to laugh or cry at such a sad post? In LOVE with the stifle? Surely not? In love with your miniatures maybe, we all love our miniatures, well, like them a lot anyway. But to love a button that hides and prevents you having to read something, which you don't have to read anyway and then make a post to display your er, love! Oh dear oh dear! Just what is this sad world coming to? |
| earthad | 20 Apr 2013 3:53 a.m. PST |
Agree with above, i thought the point of a forum was exchange of ideas, posts and in this case beautiful minis! |
| Gazzola | 20 Apr 2013 5:50 a.m. PST |
earthad Most of it is, thankfully. |
Editor in Chief Bill  | 20 Apr 2013 7:01 a.m. PST |
Gazzola
the man who has single-handedly taught 355 members the joy of the Stifle button.  |
John the OFM  | 20 Apr 2013 7:04 a.m. PST |
Some people are obstinately blind to the true reason for the stifle button. Do you turn the dial on the radio if Rush Limbaugh comes on while you are scanning? When you are channel surfing and you see The Ed Show or Chris Matthews, or Rachel Madcow, do you force yourself to stop? Life is too short to force yourself to read twaddle. It is not the views that make me stifle someone. It is their general obnoxiousness. I assure you, NOTHING they have to say is worth reading. I have un-stifled some chuckleheads to see if they have been bitten by the rationality bug, but alas! such is not the case. Back on goes the stifle. |
John the OFM  | 20 Apr 2013 7:08 a.m. PST |
Some people think that all opinions are of equal value. That is empirically untrue. |
| earthad | 20 Apr 2013 8:57 a.m. PST |
But do you find that much objectionable? I know sometimes I don't agree with all the posts from someone, but other times I enjoy the same persons posts. You might be missing out on good stuff? Sorry don't really get your references as I am Australian
but I am sure those people mentioned are objectionable
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| goragrad | 20 Apr 2013 10:48 a.m. PST |
So how many 'stifles' will this post generate for the various participants? |
| Abwehrschlacht | 20 Apr 2013 11:53 a.m. PST |
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John the OFM  | 20 Apr 2013 1:22 p.m. PST |
Sorry don't really get your references as I am Australian
but I am sure those people mentioned are objectionable
. Rush is a right wing radio talk sho host. The others are lefty TV personalities. Each set has haters and detractors. So, my point is that one should not be forced to watch or listen to people you cant' stand. I only stifle people for their general obnxiousness, not for their opinions. |
| Abwehrschlacht | 20 Apr 2013 1:58 p.m. PST |
I haven't stifled anyone, I never will. Yet 13 people have stifled me. I'm not really sure what I did. |
| Texas Jack | 20 Apr 2013 2:29 p.m. PST |
It must have been those controversial Rapid Fire AARs  |
| gweirda | 20 Apr 2013 2:35 p.m. PST |
"I'm not really sure what I did." You didn't do anything – They hit the stifle button. That's the only known fact – all else is (and will remain forever) conjecture. |
| Gazzola | 20 Apr 2013 2:41 p.m. PST |
Bill Not sure on the colour blue, but I guess that's your choice. Red would have been far more dramatic. And no, sorry, I have not 'taught' anyone to use the stifle. That was a decision they made all by themselves. I would never 'teach' anyone to do something I disagree with and would not do myself. |
| badwargamer | 20 Apr 2013 2:45 p.m. PST |
Beginning to think the editor should start a stifle board for all these threads! |
| Gazzola | 20 Apr 2013 3:05 p.m. PST |
Badwargamer Don't go giving him ideas! |
| Charles Marlow | 20 Apr 2013 4:16 p.m. PST |
Is Gazzola decrying The Stiffle Buttom whilst he has Stiffled 355 TMPers?! Sorry, last 45 minutes of work and Im a little bit, well, stupid right now
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| Kaoschallenged | 20 Apr 2013 4:41 p.m. PST |
Threads like this and some of the comments here gives me another chance to post this again, As I have said before in similar threads its pretty funny that some here equate using the button with being "thin skinned"," feelings easily hurt",Ect. Or imply it as a sign of weakness or childishness. But some use the button so as to no longer have to see some of the actions and rudeness that some of our fellow posters commit here. And we have seen that some can become quite nasty.s Now some wear it as a sign of pride that they have never used it.Well kudos and good for them.Some say its "censorship" or somehow restricting or denying them their "free rights". But as the poster's comments can still be seen shows that that is not the case. Some here use their right to not to have to read others comments if they want. I too do not Stifle "only stifle people for their general obnoxiousness, not for their opinions." But I like others could not care less if I receive one. And if I give one. Its none of their business. Robert |
| charared | 20 Apr 2013 6:17 p.m. PST |
Amen Kaoschallenged & OFM! |
| Gazzola | 21 Apr 2013 1:33 a.m. PST |
Charles Marlow No, I have been stifled 355 times. I haven't stifled anyone and never will because it is so silly. Instead, I prefer to use the option of reading what they say and deciding if I want to rely or not. |
| Gazzola | 21 Apr 2013 1:42 a.m. PST |
Kaoschallenged I think some people sadly, rather than not reply, which is so easy to do, as we all know, might stifle out of spite. But that's their choice and as you suggest, apart from the time and fun of taking part in some of the stifle threads, it does not affect life in any way. Anyway, I'm now totally bored to bits with the silly stifle topic and I'm off to do some good old historical and wargaming research. And to do that, of course, I will have to read other people's viewpoints, which is often very enjoyable and educational, even if I disagree with some of their opinions and findings. But if you don't read them, you don't learn. So er, I guess I shall sign off this thread and wish a happy stifling to those who er, find it 'fun' or feel 'obliged 'to do so. |
| freewargamesrules | 21 Apr 2013 1:45 a.m. PST |
Agree with you there don't see the point of the stifle feature. You should be open to all opinions and if you disagree accept you disagree or don't bother reading forums. I've not stifled anyone but 10 have stifled me, they should grow a pair. |
| Kaoschallenged | 21 Apr 2013 2:31 a.m. PST |
Meh.As I and OFM have stated all ready.We don't stifle for just for opinions.And once again my point is proven by implying that those who don't stifle are in some way superior to those who do and that they should "grow a pair". Its none of anyone's business if I Stifle or not. I will Stifle whenever and whoever I want to no matter what some think. By implying that it makes me less of a man aint gonna change what I do. If thats how you feel then knock yourself out. You are just words on a screen. If I don't was to read what some have to say then its easier to see a grey box.So it really doesn't matter but it is in no way a indication of who I am nor does it mean that others can denigrate me. Playing Devil's Advocate I would think that the reverse would be that those who receive and complain about getting a stifle would be the ones that should just deal with it and move along. Its just a number on a profile page. Robert |
| Gazzola | 21 Apr 2013 4:59 a.m. PST |
freewargamesrules Well said. |
| Gazzola | 21 Apr 2013 5:09 a.m. PST |
Kaoschallenged Yes, exactly, it is just words on a screen, some often said with tongue in cheek and nothing said in these boxes really indicates what the poster is like in real life. And some of the people I have shown what people have said and how they reacted either fell about laughing or felt pity for those who stifled. I don't have any animosity to anyone who has or did attend this site, or those who feel compelled to stifle me. That is their choice, although I think we should all learn to agree to disagree, if viewpoints clash, rather than hide what people say. Apart from that, there are far more interesting and wargaming/history related threads to enjoy than one discussing the silly stifle! |
| Rrobbyrobot | 21 Apr 2013 7:28 a.m. PST |
I'm in agreement with John and Robert. As for those that whine that their right to be obnoxious is being infringed upon. Please try to remember the freedom to associate. Which implies a freedom not to associate. |
John the OFM  | 21 Apr 2013 9:33 a.m. PST |
There seems to be two entirely different concepts of the "stifle" here. Chaoschallenged and I keep repeating that someone else'e contrary opinion to what we think has absolutely nothing to do with why we stifle. I have stifled obnoxious PERSONS, and NOT contrary opinions. And yet, that is completely ignored to argue that we are stifling those we do not agree with. It is almost if we are being stifled and argued with for what someone THINKS we said.  Either that, or reading comprehension is not what it used to be. Not that it ever was what it used to be. |
John the OFM  | 21 Apr 2013 9:35 a.m. PST |
"Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins." I often wonder how your right to free speech is infringed by my right to not listen. |
| Gazzola | 21 Apr 2013 3:04 p.m. PST |
Oh stifles to it all! The debate is beginning to sound a bit like a UN meeting. I think everyone should step back into the real world, by that I mean wargaming world here, and forget all about the flamin' silly button and enjoy life, play wargames and research battles. |
| Grand Duke Natokina | 23 Apr 2013 1:30 p.m. PST |
I used the S button once. Probably won't again. CK the Title and author. If I don't care for either, I just drive on. |
| Kaoschallenged | 24 Apr 2013 7:30 a.m. PST |
Hmmmmmmm. Since I started posting in this thread I have been able to pick a couple more Stifles. I don't think I have been rude or obnoxious. Could it be perhaps
cuz of my OPINION? LOL. Robert |
| Gazzola | 25 Apr 2013 2:41 a.m. PST |
Tried to make a joke out of the stifle silliness but I realised it would only fuel things so I deleted it. It will be interesting now to see if my stifle count goes up or down. |
| Gazzola | 26 Apr 2013 2:39 a.m. PST |
It went up, which says a lot about those who are unable to accept or ignore posts that disagree with their views and stifle under the feeble excuse that those they stifle are obnoxious, even though other members still read and post with them. It suggests they really stifle out of spite because they can't win their arguments. If only everyone could agree to disagree. Ah well, life goes on, the stiflers in their blindfolds and the stifled laughing their heads off or shaking them in disbelief. Important-this is all said with tongue in cheek, so please don't take offence! Resist the stifle! Go on, you can do it! |
| Silent Pool | 28 Apr 2013 3:55 a.m. PST |
With the over emphasis on the name Gazzola
I'm thinking what an obnoxious start to a post, what is going on here? Then when I read on I think my goodness this fellow is taunting Gazzola, and I don't think that's right. So let me exercise my right (and that's MY right) to Stifle the offending member and be rid of him and his attitude
but I can't because it is the dear ole Editor and He don't like it much. All is not love and fairness in TMP and Stifles land, but why should it be? Yes, I've been up creek without a paddle and it is a hateful experience – never again. So, perhaps, we can simply do away with the Stifle League Table and leave those who wish to Stifle to get on with it and for us all to concentrate not on miniature minds but miniature figures. I thank you. (If anyone was offended in the course of reading my post then I sincerely apologise) Blues 4 Working together for a nicer TMP experience |
| Silent Pool | 28 Apr 2013 4:11 a.m. PST |
do away with the Stifle League Table and leave those who wish to Stifle to get on with it I don't feel bad about letting you go I just feel sad about letting you know I don't want to change the world I'm not looking for a new England |
| Gazzola | 29 Apr 2013 2:36 a.m. PST |
Blues For Baby and Me In time we will all look back on this and have a good laugh, well, apart from those who stifle because they won't be able to read the posts. |