| Generalstoner49 | 19 Apr 2013 6:44 p.m. PST |
So with my WW2 painting for Flames of War winding down I was looking for a new time period. The Muskets and Tomahawks rules set caught our groups eye as the initial start in is not that bad. Looking for inspiration I happened upon John the OFM's past post: TMP link It was a good start on to how to get a decent force up and running and get the figures to give you a nice variety of coats and facings. So far we have 12 figure units and will expand from there. For the Continentals I took John's advice to heart and painted 2 continentals in brown coats one with red and one with white facings and 1 with blue coats and red facings. I think the 4th continental unit will be a Blue with buff facings just because I can't steal John's idea entirely since he suggested white. :) As for the British I have one unit in the 1768 warrant with blue facings and a unit of light infantry in chain hats and blue cuffs to serve as their lights. I am working on some of the new Perry plastics which will have a green cuff, a buff and a yellow facing battalion. These perry figs will get placed in the 1777 slouch hat variant. Supplementing these will be some lights from that marvelous new fife and drum line. When these guys are done I am going to focus on some run of the mill uninspiring militia types and perhaps some Tory regiments in green or Hessians. Please use this link to start, it helped me a lot and just wanted fellow TMP'ers to know about it. |
| historygamer | 19 Apr 2013 6:49 p.m. PST |
His stuff is fun to look at. :-) |
John the OFM  | 19 Apr 2013 7:07 p.m. PST |
Glad to know it was helpful. |
| epturner | 19 Apr 2013 7:08 p.m. PST |
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| nevinsrip | 19 Apr 2013 8:02 p.m. PST |
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John the OFM  | 19 Apr 2013 8:58 p.m. PST |
You can never have too many Highlanders. Once you have all the regiments, then work on the 2nd battalions. |
| Generalstoner49 | 19 Apr 2013 9:06 p.m. PST |
Highlanders eventually. Gonna do some grenadiers early as well. This way I can field an "early" British force of lights with line and grenadiers all with blue facings. I figure if I game later on the tricorne cut guys can act as a provincial unit. Going through the different painting guides I think Dearborn might be a must build. The brown coats with yellow cuffs and green trousers look awesome. |
| Fat Wally | 20 Apr 2013 12:06 a.m. PST |
The AWI claims another victim. |
| laager50 | 20 Apr 2013 3:00 a.m. PST |
Thanks for the post. Was going to ask about starting in the period, this has saved me from that. Thinking of using Pendraken 10mm. |
| caubeen | 20 Apr 2013 4:35 a.m. PST |
If you go 10mm then you can go 1:1 ratio. :) |
79thPA  | 20 Apr 2013 5:56 a.m. PST |
Don't forget the Hessians. |
| Generalstoner49 | 20 Apr 2013 8:20 a.m. PST |
Question is do I build straight Hessian's or go for a smattering of just German mercenaries? I like the Hessian units but didn't the Anspach-Bayeuruth wear a white uniform? Also the Brunswickers are cool but very limited to their Saratoga campaign. |
Der Alte Fritz  | 20 Apr 2013 8:37 a.m. PST |
Don't forget to add some Continentals in hunting shirts. They were fairly common:
Here they are in a firing line:
More of the individual Fife & Drum Continentals in hunting shirts:
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Der Alte Fritz  | 20 Apr 2013 8:40 a.m. PST |
Fife & Drum Miniatures: superior quality with no flash on the figures and no assembly required.  And freaky fast delivery too! |
| RNSulentic | 20 Apr 2013 8:42 a.m. PST |
The Hessians were employed both in brigade strength, (mostly in 1776, 1777) and tag along units--von Bose regt with Cornwallis being the most famous example. But there were various operations out of New York that included single Hessian battalions. Also, if you paint up units of British Grenadiers, you ought to also do Hessian grenadiers, as they never seem very far apart, particularly in '76 and '77. Anhalt Zerbst was in white coats, but they got sent to Canada and probably never fired a shot. Ansbach-Bayreuth wore blue coats and garrisoned Philadelphia, and later were at Yorktown. You should paint up some jagers, as they got employed everywhere. And don't forget the Loyalists. |
John the OFM  | 20 Apr 2013 8:50 a.m. PST |
Anspach wore a "normal" Prussian style uniform. The white uniform was worn by the Anhalt Zerbst regiment, who were a garrison unit that never left Canada. |
John the OFM  | 20 Apr 2013 8:51 a.m. PST |
Ah, someone was here ahead of me! |
| Generalstoner49 | 20 Apr 2013 9:01 a.m. PST |
Ah
. good info guys. So here is another question guys. When it came to continental regiments did the entire regiment wear the hunting frock? Or did the regiment have a smattering of frock coats and then some guys in their regimental coat with cuff Colors? One last question
if the entire regiment wore hunting coats were they all the same shade? |
John the OFM  | 20 Apr 2013 9:46 a.m. PST |
There are two extremes in painting Continental regiments. One is to make them all exactly alike, and the other is to make every figure different. The truth lies somewhere in between. All the Continental regiments were assigned a uniform color and facing color. Those were the regulations. However, the congress and the states were notoriously niggardly in providing the necessary funding for this. A COMPANY was more likely to be uniform than the whole regiment. If you want to outfit the entire regiment in hunting shirts, painting one stand as white, another light buff, another gray, etc would not be out of line. Both Eureka and Dixon make "campaign dress" uniforms for Continentals. The eureka ones are really ragged. If my "research" indicates that a unit was blue with red facings, I would mix raggeds with Perry or Foundry in the same pose, and try to stick with the blue/red theme, and even mix some civilian and hunting shirt types in with them. This is for a unit that is seeing hard service, like at Trenton or in the South. A more "uniform" look if you want to base them on the New York or Monmouth campaigns. Either way, only a cad would call you inaccurate, and shooting him is justifiable homicide in 45 of the 50 states. |
| Militia Pete | 20 Apr 2013 9:51 a.m. PST |
Yep, as stated by the OFM. |
| historygamer | 20 Apr 2013 6:48 p.m. PST |
DAF has great stuff to look at as well. :-) |
| Generalstoner49 | 20 Apr 2013 8:01 p.m. PST |
I agree with you history, DAF will be getting an order from me sooner than later. First for some British "light bobs" then after I do a little more research on these blasted hunting coats I will be ordering some of them as well. Another question for the peanut gallery. I own Lefferts as well as Mollo. Are there any other good books to pick up as painting guides? |
| Timotheous | 21 Apr 2013 12:07 a.m. PST |
Love all this talk of building AWI regiments! I'm slowly working on some 25s for FIW, as well as some continentals. All based individually of course. DAF, your stuff looks fantastic! |
John the OFM  | 21 Apr 2013 6:42 a.m. PST |
Lefferts and Mollo are fine. I also recmmend Troiani. My Lefferts is a black and white reprint. Here is a site with the plates in color, and a lot more than are in my book. link The usual caveat for Lefferts is that he was published in the 1920s and "further research
" blah blah blah. |
Der Alte Fritz  | 21 Apr 2013 9:01 a.m. PST |
Based on Lefferts, I am assuming that different uniforms in different companies of the same regiment was not uncommon through 1777. The uniform lottery coats start arriving from France in 1778 so I am inferring that there might be a little more, ahem "uniformity", in the uniforms of a regiment. For my 1777 campaign armies, I like to pick a basic uniform scheme, say blue coats with red facings and white small clothes, for a regiment and from there, about one-third to one-half of the battalion will be clothed in a variety of uniform colors. For example, I might use some of the Fife & Drum militia figures to represent "new recruits" who have not yet been issued a uniform, or I might paint a few Continentals in brown coats with red facings, etc. Then throw in a few figures wearing hunting shirts for even more variety. If I keep at least half of the regiment in a common color scheme, then that conveys the identity of the regiment in some respects, but also has variety of uniforms for the other half. |