"Will Lasermodellbau Roman 1:72nd buildings work for 28mm?" Topic

I know a lot of folks use smaller scale buildings with their smaller "foot print" for war-games in greater scales. For example, some use 20mm (1:72nd) buildings in games with 28mm figures. I THINK I've even read where some(?) use 15mm buildings for 25/28mm games.

I'm less worried about "footprint" and more interested in aesthetics. This is especially for games like SAGA, where small numbers of figures are involved, and are based individually. THEREFORE, I'd like a figure not to have to STOOP (figuratively -- pun intended!!) to enter a building!!

I'm interested in the several Najewitz Modellbau(?) "Ancient/Late Rome 1:72" buildings labeled as town houses or "Corner House" at Lasermodellbau. I was wondering if anyone has these in their collection? Especially anyone in Canada or the US who could also speak to how reliable they were and quick in packaging and delivering?

For the aesthetics, I mostly use 28mm figures such as Foundry's or Warlord Games' EIR, or Foundry's Late Roman figures… Therefore, can anyone help me by giving the dimensions for:

1) Overall height and width of the front face of any of the four "town" buildings? Or the villa?

2) Overall height and width of the "doors" or street access/openings on the front face of the buildings and/or villa?

3) Overall height measured from "ground" or "street" level to the bottom sill of the second story windows of the front face of these buildings?

Thanks in advance!!!!

I bought a couple of the '1813' series buildings which were delivered from Germany to the UK in about two weeks. They were sturdy and nicely detailed but surprisingly fiddly to put together. However, the overall final effect was very good. I would say that they are on the large 28 mm size and more suited to skirmish gaming i.e the dimensions are scale realistic like Grand Manner. The two models were town houses, but I used one as the basis for a walled inn and the other I chopped down a bit. If the Roman buildings are similar they will be worthwhile but a bit 'heroic'.

Hi Artilleryman. Umm, recalling Churchill, I'm not QUITE sure we are speaking the same language here!

The Najewitz Modellbau "1813" line of buildings is designed for "28mm," but the ROMAN buildings are "20mm" (1:72nd). Are you trying to suggest that since the "1813" --- in your experience --- are "heroic 28s scale", that I might find that their Roman buildings, albeit 20mm, could prove "heroic 20mm", or nearly-25mm, as it were, and therefore, might be "slightly small" for 28mm Foundry or Warlord Games Roman figures, but nonetheless "workable?"

Just trying to get at your point. Thanks!

Maybe that helps. It´s your taste they will match

@ jensutkremp. I really appreciate the photos!!

The photographs do help some. I assume that those are 28mm figures posed in front of your buildings? I can not identify which figures you used -- which company made them -- are they Gripping Beast, for example?

It would help if the shots had been made at "ground level," instead of at an angle from slightly "above" which can distort perspective. Also, had the figures all been staged as close to the doors so that we could gauge if 28mm figures could "walk through those doors," as in a couple of the later photos. However, yes, your photos suggest, if those ARE 28mm figures, that at least some of the town buildings will work.

Not sure about the "commercial" building -- the one with the lattice-work across the top of the main doorway?? I think a 28mm figure would have to "stoop" to avoid hitting his head on the lattice?

The dual-portal gateway is MAGNIFICANT!! I've been to Arbeia (South Shields), and I must say, that is a great model. It might have helped us to gauge if it will work with 28mm figures if a mounted figure had also been posed by one of the gates -- not just a foot figure. Still, it LOOKS like a 28mm mounted officer or cavalrymen might be able to ride through that gate without ducking his head…

Of all the buildings, the villa rustica is the one that looks like it might be least likely to work. I take it the villa comes in six separate parts? Main building, two multi-story "wings," two single-story outer wings, and a wall with gate. If so the villa looks like it is very versatile, IF it could also be used as individual pieces to suggest a town, not just assembled together as a villa???? However, to make two pieces work that way there should be doors to the multi-story "wings," so they can be used as stand-alone buildings… Are there doors -- at least one door each -- hidden in the photos by the main villa building?? Obviously the two single-story outer wings have plenty of doors!!

The main villa building, with portico on front and balcony at the back, looks like it would work with 28mm figures at the front. However, I'm not as sure at the back. From the photo on the website, it seems the balcony is too small to hold 28mm figures??? More important, the doors leading out onto the balcony look like they are only "tall" enough for 20mm figures, not 28mm?

If you would not mind answering those questions, if you can? Many thanks!!!!

Hi,

I do not know the brand of the figures, but they all are 28mm. Some customers made the pictures for me. So I am not able to make new pictures, because I have no 28mm ancients and 2nd I sold my painted models. To make pictures I must buy 28mm figures and assemble and paint the buildings again.

All my buildings are kits. So you can use every building (as for example the villa) as single buildings. The corner houses, stables and so on.

I do not know the brand of the figures, but they all are 28mm. Some customers made the pictures… I have no 28mm ancients and… sold my painted models.

Fair enough --- was only asking.

All my buildings are kits. So you can use every building (as for example the villa) as single buildings. The corner houses, stables and so on.

So those two "outer wings" are meant as stables or similar "light industry" buildings?? Ahhh, I see.

Okay -- not sure if you understood my question about, are there any doors leading to the outside on those two, two-story "wings?" Without some means of egress, those two pieces at least would not work very well as stand-alone structures??? If you follow me?

That said, I guess from the evidence of the photos you've kindly provided, the best thing for me is to pick a couple of the buildings that best fit with my current plans and just "take the plunge!!" For example, If I decide to buy the "commercial" building with the fancy lattice work in the large door-opening? As these are kits, if that lattice can be left off the building, then the door would almost certainly (from those photos) be "tall" enough to allow a 28mm figure to pass through "without hitting his head!" Not sure what I would do with the lattice, but never-mind that…

If the "test" proves negative, I can always try to assemble, paint, and sell the models on-wards on evil-Bay!! BUT, if it proves that the buildings really will work for me, I suspect I might order a couple additional later.

That two-portal gate really has caught my eye!! Thanks again!

Sorry, been away for a while but I think that you have the answers you need. The bottom line for what I was trying to say is that the lines seem to be based on realistic scale measurements rather than anything truncated or 'misproportioned'. Either way, these are good models and for wargames I think the 1/72 scale buildings would be really suitable for 28mm figures.

@ jensutkremp, the pictures help.

However, any chance of at least getting the dimensions (height and width) in millimeters of the smaller doorways on all of the the four Roman town buildings? The one-person doors?

1) Eckhaus Rom Typ 1: door on the front…

2) Geschäftshaus Rom Typ 1: the smaller door on the front…

3) Geschäftshaus Rom Typ 2: two doors on the back…

4) Geschäftshaus Rom Typ 3: two doors on the back…

It would ALSO be nice to have the dimensions of the "commercial" doors or "openings to the street" on the three larger buildings…

5) Geschäftshaus Rom Typ 1: two large doors on the front…

6) Geschäftshaus Rom Typ 2: two large doors on the front…

7) Geschäftshaus Rom Typ 3: one large door on the front…

Thanks in advance!!!!!