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John Thomas815 Apr 2013 7:55 a.m. PST

…I don't see too many public fans of them, a bunch of 'em sell, and almost NOBODY wants to sell any of theirs. :-)

I've been looking hard for 2 months and have managed to purchase less than 100 painted cav figs….and less than 600 total….

Good for Italeri and Imex, etc, etc, etc….bad for me, as I still have a metric s-ton left to paint up for a game in June.

Martin Rapier15 Apr 2013 8:03 a.m. PST

For some reason the second hand price for plastics is relatively low, so once they are painted why sell them unless you have to.

I've never sold any of mine, just watch the pile grow higher and higher….

John Thomas815 Apr 2013 8:13 a.m. PST

I've gotten PMs like that, and appreciate it. I'd be willing to go $0.80 USD to $1.25 USD per painted cav figure, $0.50 USD to $0.80 USD for infantry/dismounts and it typically doesn't grab anyone.

Sigh.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP15 Apr 2013 9:05 a.m. PST

The problem is they take as long to paint as metals, but you can't get the same return on them if you sell 'em. They're light so a bit easier to store, so why not just hang on to them ?

My recollection from ebay etc is that one usually only finds them for sale in numbers when someone has died and their family are doing a house clearance. :-(

John Leahy Sponsoring Member of TMP15 Apr 2013 10:03 a.m. PST

20th has it right. I own a load of them and paint for a living. I enjoyed painting them and would run a sale on ACW plastics every so often. 50 figs would run $55.00 USD to 60.00 a set. Now that is dirt cheap for me to sell as a painter and I haven't run that sale in 4-5 years. Bottom line is if you cannot find what you need at the prices you listed then what you want to pay is simply too low. $1.50 USD-2.00 is probably closer to the mark. Oh, I'm not trying to solicit sales. Just trying to give a heads up from the other side.

Thanks,

John

John Thomas815 Apr 2013 5:42 p.m. PST

Ok, sounds reasonable: professional painter expects to get paid.

Me, I'm amassing unpainted at .15-.20 cents/fig and only looking for a $1 USD paint job on 'em.

Which leaves out pro painters, as much as I'd like to be able to afford 'em.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP16 Apr 2013 3:58 a.m. PST

The good thing with ACW is it's mostly a simple uniform – could you maybe get someone to just do the blocking in for you?

Blue trousers, blue jackets, grey troueser, grey jackets – then you do the detail work.

Son/daughter/wife/friend ?

John Thomas816 Apr 2013 4:32 a.m. PST

The Mrs is painting the horses….the rest is on me.

Marc the plastics fan16 Apr 2013 5:42 a.m. PST

I would not sell my plastics at those low prices as they take as much effort as metals.

But, I have learnt to love the Army Painter coloured primers – blue and grey worked for my ACW (I have just finshed another 200 of them) – and I even made my life harder by going for light blue trousers on both sides (I know, I know…)

The AP website shows them, and they stuck with dark blue for the Union (cannot remember if they went grey with the Confederates).

So for a quick job, one could spray, then boots and equipment, flesh, guns and pretty much done. I then "dip" (or rather "splodge") and matt spray. Very happy with mine.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP16 Apr 2013 5:48 a.m. PST

The Mrs is painting the horses….the rest is on me.

You're doing Brandy Station , of course grin

John Thomas816 Apr 2013 7:21 a.m. PST

The AP primers peel off the plastics. Plastics that have been heavily prepped. They work fine on my metals, though.

Ya, Brandy Station. And Trevilian Station next year, too.

Dexter Ward16 Apr 2013 8:26 a.m. PST

Best primer for soft plastic is artist's acrylic straight out of the tube. Forms a nice flexible layer.
I'm told PVA glue and latext primer also work.

Marc the plastics fan16 Apr 2013 9:17 a.m. PST

John – I have found the AP work "ok" on my plastics, but if in doubt I can also use the various plastic primers out there. But generally, I find it is the sealing coat that makes the most difference. Pre dip, I was a big fan of Liquitex acrylic matte medium (a form of PVA glue I guess), tried Klear, but now find the AP dip and matt spray work well enough for my needs. I have found my ACW figures more than robust enough for group games.

Oh, and I have also used Gesso. But when the weather is nice (in the UK, not too often sadly) then I find the spary options the best (ie quickest).

John Leahy Sponsoring Member of TMP16 Apr 2013 4:33 p.m. PST

Plasti-dip will solve any peeling issues you have with any spray paint. The stuff is incredible!

Thanks,

John

John Thomas818 Apr 2013 6:37 a.m. PST

I've found that Krylon primers stick the best….but try finding a flat blue…..sheesh….

number418 Apr 2013 7:34 p.m. PST

I use flat dark brown primer – that way any difficult undercuts you miss just look naturally shadowed, and it also takes care of that awkward bit of hairline under the hat brim. Also if any of the top coat gets chipped, it just looks like a mud stain.

John Thomas819 Apr 2013 4:15 p.m. PST

An excellent suggestion.

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