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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP10 Apr 2013 10:31 p.m. PST

A question.

Why is it the only list without Date of the last stifle, the identification if you are a Supporting TMP member, Personal Logo and the most important, if you are an inactive member with the "ZZZZ" signal?

Yust curious.

Amicalement
Armand

SECURITY MINISTER CRITTER10 Apr 2013 10:39 p.m. PST

Probably more code that Bill didn't want to write.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP11 Apr 2013 2:12 a.m. PST

Tango01 – one of the most stifled for the least reason (as far as I can tell). 120 for the Top Spot !

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP11 Apr 2013 7:33 a.m. PST

…and the most important, if you are an inactive member with the "ZZZZ" signal?

Why is that important? Why is any of this list?
Don't get hung up on worrying about Stifles.
They are nothing but an amusing idiosyncratic feature of TMP. The real bed-wetters are not those who stifle; they are those who get upset about them. "Mommie! Some anonymous person on the Internet doesn't like me!"

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian11 Apr 2013 8:28 a.m. PST

Why is it the only list without Date of the last stifle, the identification if you are a Supporting TMP member, Personal Logo and the most important, if you are an inactive member with the "ZZZZ" signal?

Can you rephrase that? I don't understand what you are saying.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP11 Apr 2013 10:43 a.m. PST

John: I agree with you, but the list is there, so sometimes we read it. Worry about stifles is silly, take fun about them is good.

Bill: Sorry for my bad english. My question point why in the other lists each member or visitor name there had his Logo of Supporting member, also a personal logo (in some cases) and if you are inactive because of many reasons, the logo with the "ZZZZ" and this NOT happen in the STifle lists.

The question became when other day I want to know who are active yet in the list and if you want to know that you had to click in each name/member and go to his profile.

In the other list members (number of threads, Top posters, Most longwinded, etc there are those indentifications.

As the Stifle list is the most visited…

A silly question at the end.

Amicalement
Armand

GarrisonMiniatures12 Apr 2013 12:33 p.m. PST

I don't think the stifle list is really worth worrying about – it can often (but not always) say more about the stifler than the stifled……

Just keep going the way you are and don't worry about it.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP12 Apr 2013 10:07 p.m. PST

Thanks you my friend.

Amicalement
Armand

Personal logo Grelber Supporting Member of TMP13 Apr 2013 8:50 a.m. PST

OK, I had to go off and look this up--it's a part of TMP I'd never noticed.
Tango01--14,000 messages, and you've only annoyed 232 people? I sure wouldn't lose any sleep over that! Seriously, you submit a vast number of messages, some of them interesting, others less so. At least you make the titles fairly clear, so I can see what I'll be getting into and don't bother with those that don't interest me.

Bill--"Most Longwinded" Hey, couldn't you think of a better name than that for your list?

Grelber
Who will have to go look at his statistics because he was sure he'd end up on the "Most Longwinded" list.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP13 Apr 2013 11:02 a.m. PST

My friend Grelber, many thanks for your support.
Even there are not xxx people. Many visitors had more that one "nom the plume" here and they used them to stifle.
So, no, any problem with that.
My question was only for curious. Why in that page nobody had any logo?

Amicalement
Armand

Silent Pool13 Apr 2013 11:44 a.m. PST

14,000 messages, and you've only annoyed 232 people

My take on it is not that Tango01 has annoyed 232 people but 232 people want to annoy Tango01.

Don't let the bar-stewards get you down Armand. You are a most worthy member of TMP and the site would be very much poorer without your contribution.

Blues 4

Gazzola13 Apr 2013 4:56 p.m. PST

Do people really get upset about being stifled? I wonder? Yes, they might be puzzled as to why people feel they have to stifle, rather than simply ignore a post or not reply to someone who disagrees with them – but upset, I doubt it.

I think we just have to accept that some people get more annoyed more easily, than others. It is a fact of life, i suppose, but life goes on and I don't think anyone will lose any sleep over it.

I just hope there is a prize for being the first to hit the 400 stifle mark!

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP13 Apr 2013 10:36 p.m. PST

Get me down my friend?
I laught about the stifles.
I think they are a fun thing. Bill had these funny intention when he invented them.

My friend Gazzola, bad news to you… I would be the first one with 500 stifle marks!. (smile).

Amicalement
Armand

Gazzola14 Apr 2013 3:51 a.m. PST

Tango01

Sorry, but you have no chance of taking my crown! I found it in the gutter (dropped by Sparker) and the stiflers placed it on my head! I am the Emperor of Stifles.

I will only lose my crown if I leave the site or start saying yes to everything everyone says.

Silent Pool14 Apr 2013 5:15 a.m. PST

Gazzola,

I get the impression that you are taking this Stifle league table far too seriously.

The real money is on getting yourself inside the Dawghouse. Where you at?

Blues 4 wink

Gazzola14 Apr 2013 10:32 a.m. PST

Blues For Baby and Me

Me-in the Dawghouse – NEVER! And I throughly disapprove of gambling for such a serious matter! The very thought!

And anway, I've learnt my lesson. I wake up every morning now and repeat 100 times "I must not disagree with anyone. I must not have my own opinion". Now where did I put the blindfold and ear plugs?

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP15 Apr 2013 3:31 p.m. PST

Only terrible TMP people get dawghoused evil grin mentioning no names….

Gazzola16 Apr 2013 2:43 a.m. PST

Terrible! That's a terrible thing to say!

I am not terrible!
I am not terrible!
I am not terrible!

Hold on, I'm not in the Dawghouse- yipee! I'm not terrible!

Death to the stifle by the way!

Dee Jay16 Apr 2013 3:51 a.m. PST

Perhaps it might be amusing to have a list of those who stifle the most, let's see who these delicate little flowers are?

Inkpaduta16 Apr 2013 6:04 a.m. PST

Gazzola,

Over 350 stifles!!! Whatever did you do??

Gazzola16 Apr 2013 9:29 a.m. PST

Inkpaduta

Well, apart from the stifles by those who stifle for 'fun', I earned stifles because I dared to disagree with people, offered a different opinion, stood up for myself and gave as good as I got. Sadly, that seemed to 'force' some people to panic and press the stifle button!

But each to their own and all that. And anyway, it does not really matter, since most members are made of sterner stuff and willing to share knowledge and can agree to disagree, as it should be.

Kaoschallenged16 Apr 2013 3:57 p.m. PST

Threads like this and some of the comments here gives me another chance to post this again,
As I have said before in similar threads its pretty funny that some here equate using the button with being "thin skinned"," feelings easily hurt",Ect. Or imply it as a sign of weakness or childishness. But some use the button so as to no longer have to see some of the actions and rudeness that some of our fellow posters commit here. And we have seen that some can become quite nasty.s Now some wear it as a sign of pride that they have never used it.Well kudos and good for them.Some say its "censorship" or somehow restricting or denying them their "free rights". But as the poster's comments can still be seen shows that that is not the case. Some here use their right to not to have to read others comments if they want. But I like others could not care less if I receive one. And if I give one. Its none of their business. Robert

Stavka16 Apr 2013 4:31 p.m. PST

The idea of being able to stifle someone is no problem for me, any more is muting the TV during commercials, or when obnoxious TV personalities make an appearance.

It's not for others to judge my choice of whether I want to read their pearls of wisdom or not.

People have no way of knowing whether or not I am bothering even reading their posts or even a particular thread at all, so why should they care- or even know- whether I have stifled them or not.

Beyond drumming up controversy, I see no need for stifle counts, or for those who are stifled to even have to know about whether others are stifling them. The fact that members can block posters at their whim for whatever reason they choose, and enjoy the grey boxes of tranquility thus enhancing their TMP experience, should be enough.

But as it is, stifles are public so that it's used rather like a "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" comment on YouTube. It then becomes some kind of (un)popularity contest, or at worst gets personal. Who needs that kind of crap.

Keep stifles, but keep them private. Don't ask, don't tell, don't keep track.

Gazzola16 Apr 2013 5:12 p.m. PST

Er, it's a wargaming website, not a site about saving the world! So people blanking out what others say, for whatever reason, is just plain silly, in my opinion But it is their choice, so best of luck to them, I suppose?

I really wish all those who stifle all the best – oh, er, hold on, can someone pass that on to them, as they probably won't be able to appreciate my best wishes.

Dee Jay17 Apr 2013 4:51 a.m. PST

I see my post has picked me up a couple of stifles, but hey why should I care?

However, if the number of stifles is to be shown, then it can only be fair to show the number of stifles given.

I don't have any interest in who stifles me it's their choice. But, if we have a league table showing those whose stifles run into cricket scores, it would be interesting to know who are those who have stifled hundreds.

Marc the plastics fan17 Apr 2013 7:21 a.m. PST

Ooh Dj I like that – would be "fun" to see.

Silent Pool17 Apr 2013 9:40 a.m. PST

Beyond drumming up controversy, I see no need for stifle counts, or for those who are stifled to even have to know about whether others are stifling them …Keep stifles, but keep them private. Don't ask, don't tell, don't keep track

Succinctly put, Stavka. May views exactly.

Kaoschallenged17 Apr 2013 9:42 a.m. PST

In the 7 years that I have been here I have 90 people on my Stifle list. Quite a few have left, had accounts locked or haven't posted in awhile. That number changes as I look to see what the ones still posting are saying and if they should be put back. Most do. So I haven't hit the "Hundreds" mark. Robert

Dee Jay17 Apr 2013 10:06 a.m. PST

Perhaps what I object to is there being a record of the number of stifles being publicaly displayed, if 90 people annoy you that's fair enough.

However, the stifle does seem to used as a point scoring system, I read in one thread on here where a newcomer had been stifled before they had even posted!

So I feel either both set of statistics should be available or neither in the interests of fairness.

Gazzola17 Apr 2013 12:03 p.m. PST

Dee Jay

Nice thought but I imagine if those who stifled and who they stifled and when, were displayed for public view, it would probably result in a mass exodus of embarrassed stiflers!

Silent Pool17 Apr 2013 1:58 p.m. PST

it would probably result in a mass exodus of embarrassed stiflers!

Gazzola, why would it? Those who stifle are perfectly entitled to do so and do not have to give a reason. Why should they be embarrassed? We have been led down a cul-de-sac by The Editor to believe that obtaining stifles is a reflection on what/how we post. That of course is rubbish.

A very small minority stifle in order to banish another TMPer from their TMP experience. The majority (I say) do so for a bit of a laugh.

Keep stifles, but keep them private. Don't ask, don't tell, don't keep track

MINE IS THE LAST VOICE YOU WILL EVER HEAR

wink

138SquadronRAF17 Apr 2013 7:20 p.m. PST

Gazzola, I don't always agree with you, yet I alway enjoy reading them and would have to loose you from the list.

Stiffling is rather like sticking you fingers in your ears saying "La la la, can't hear you"

Bill likes stifles so we have stifles.

I do seem to a picked up a few (23) for being Orange on St. Patricks day…..

Kaoschallenged17 Apr 2013 7:33 p.m. PST

I am a moderator on another site and when someone puts some other member on "Ignore" it does not show at all except for a list that only the member can see who thay have on "Ignore". I do have to say that the amount of Stifles that some members get may be an indication of how others perceive their behavior and actions. I bet if members knew who Stifled them there would be an increase in stifles for those doing the Stifling LOL.Robert

Dee Jay18 Apr 2013 1:55 a.m. PST

Well, I've now picked up 8 stifles, for suggesting that those who stifle are thin skinned, well it rather proves my point laugh

DogWater18 Apr 2013 2:11 a.m. PST

Well, I've now picked up 8 stifles, for suggesting that those who stifle are thin skinned, well it rather proves my point

If I may paraphrase George Washington himself, "There is one thing worse than being stifled – that is not being stifled".

Dee Jay, you have arrived!

Dee Jay18 Apr 2013 2:26 a.m. PST

Well, thank you grin

Gazzola18 Apr 2013 3:08 a.m. PST

Dee Jay

Unbelievable, isn't it? If that's how some people react on a wargaming website, it makes you wonder how they react away from the web?

Do they, as 138squadronRAF mentioned, stick their fingers in their ears, close their eyes? I wonder if they actually go out at all – all those people out there who might possibly dare to say something they don't really want to hear!

But if that is how they want to life, I guess, sad and silly as it is, that is their look out and their choice.

Death to the stifle!

Gazzola18 Apr 2013 3:17 a.m. PST

138squadronRAF

I have no problem with people who do not agree with me on anything. It is very interesting when people have different opinions and viewpoints, which sometimes questions your own opinions and viewpoints and sometimes leads to undertaking further research, which is exactly as it should be. That, to me, is the whole point of debates and discussions.

I am still puzzled as to why some people simply seem unable to ignore a post they disagree with and seem so scared of their own viewpoints being challenged, that they resort to the stifle. Like you say, like having their fingers in their ears, but also while wearing a blindfold! It is quite comical when you think about it.

Gazzola18 Apr 2013 3:22 a.m. PST

Fennells Mead

Should we start getting stifle badges made? Perhaps the letter S. Green ones for those who have just received their first stifle. Bronze for up to 200, silver for 200-300, and gold for over 300.

Gazzola18 Apr 2013 3:31 a.m. PST

Blues For baby and Me

Of course it is their choice. And if that is the way they want to go, best of luck to them and I hope it gives them seconds of pleasure doing so.

But, in my opinion, I believe it is embarrassing to admit using the stifle because it exposes the fact that those that do stifle seem unable to simply ignore the views and opinions of those who disagree with them. Those who do not stifle can do it, so it is not hard to do, is it?

But really, come on, no one is forced to read post or reply to them, so, in my opinion, there is no real need for the stifle.

DEATH TO THE STIFLE!

Stavka18 Apr 2013 3:49 a.m. PST

I don't stifle because I disagree with someone. Never have, never will.

But I have stifled, do stifle, and will stifle those who on repeated occasions do not seem to be able to argue an issue without being abusive, patronizing or condescending.

Stifling, the virtual "talk to the hand", saves me having to wear out my finger scrolling through their diatribes.

Kaoschallenged18 Apr 2013 1:19 p.m. PST

"Well, I've now picked up 8 stifles, for suggesting that those who stifle are thin skinned, well it rather proves my point."

This sorta proves my point about making comments about those who stifle I guess. Just because you were stifled by someone does not mean they are "thin skinned". Robert

Silent Pool18 Apr 2013 3:01 p.m. PST

Kaoschallenged,

I can read you clearly, and I also suspect Gazzola can.

It must be the usual suspects.

thumbs up

badwargamer18 Apr 2013 4:19 p.m. PST

Why don't we have an endless discussion about stifling and whether we should have it or not, or if we should change the system. Or……………..we could accept it as part of the site and either use of not depending on our preference. After all, our opininons are not going to make the editor change it, and does not affect the person who has been stifled at all.

Just a thought…maybe a bit to radical…..

Gazzola19 Apr 2013 2:37 a.m. PST

badwargamer

I guess some people will always stifle for whatever reason, some obviously out of spite, some for fun and and some because they don't like their views being challenged.

But yes, I guess it is time to move on. I think only one person can make the decision to keep or removed the dreaded stifle. Live and let live, I say.

Kaoschallenged30 Sep 2013 7:46 p.m. PST

Threads like this makes me able to bring out my standard response,

"As I have said before in similar threads its pretty funny that some here equate using the button with being "thin skinned","crybabies"," feelings easily hurt",Ect. Or as a sign of weakness. Some use the button so as not to see any longer some of the actions and rudeness that our fellow posters commit here. And some can and have been quite nasty sometimes.Some use the stifle when a member complains about getting one. Then some of the long time regulars like to give that member one and then take it back after a short time as just a teasing. Some seem to wear it as a sign of pride that they have never used it. Well kudos and good for them. But I, like others, could not care less if I receive one.And if I give one. Its none of their business." Robert

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