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Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP10 Apr 2013 8:17 a.m. PST

I am going to confine myself to late lamented "true 25mm" lines that date back to the early 1980s, before I dropped put for 10 years. I am putting no such constraint on anyone wishing tochime in. not that anyone would ay any attention if I dod. grin
Nostalgia wants me to bring them back, but would they float today? That "scale" today is dominated by 28mm in multiple poses. These were scrawny (or not) with single poses per catalog line.

Der Kriegspielers.
I really liked the 25mm Continentals. They fit well on "1776" bases! And a Firing Line LOOKED like a "firing line", with all those identical poses.
I understand that the 115mm lines, which were great, are available to Those In The Know.

What was that company whose figures were sold by The Armoury in Baltimore, that made 25mm British Colonials? They were great for mass Dervish armies.

The Frontier Miniatures line was great, particularly the Colonials. Terrific Boxers, Pathans, and a lot of odd little things like stretcher-bearers, heliograph teams, etc.

I understand that some of these still have molds existing, but for odd reasons these are not in production. It's sad that you have to know a secret word and handshake to get these, or that the molds are just sitting in a dump somewhere because they were thrown out.
Even sadder to think that someone is holding on to them because of an unrealistic feel for "what they are really worth".

Perhaps it is due to my beginnings in TSATF with "true 25mm" figures, but I happen to feel that this is the ideal size for British colonial gaming. I think 15mm is too small for tabletop skirmish, and 28mm are just too large. I could be wrong.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP10 Apr 2013 8:19 a.m. PST

Oh, and please do not tease me with a link to the Frontier site that has been inactive since the Bush Administration. grin

Fat Wally10 Apr 2013 8:22 a.m. PST

Polly Oliver 15mm AWI range [sigh]. Oh how I wish I had then.

jpattern210 Apr 2013 8:28 a.m. PST

Dragontooth.

JonFreitag10 Apr 2013 8:37 a.m. PST

I agree with you, John, regarding the Frontier line of figures. My choice would be a resurrection of the Frontier 15mm AWI range.

Royal Air Force10 Apr 2013 8:40 a.m. PST

I would love to have some true 25s to expand my Ral Partha NWF colonials

epturner10 Apr 2013 8:41 a.m. PST

Falcon Miniatures. Great 25mm colonials and 15mm Franco-Prussians. Keith has the moulds, but he's just too busy in real life to run the business.

Second Fat Wally on the Pollys.

Eric

Rrobbyrobot10 Apr 2013 8:59 a.m. PST

I miss Ral Partha. At least the old 25mm historical stuff.

Florida Tory10 Apr 2013 9:04 a.m. PST

There is no reason to be missing the Ral Partha colonial figures, since they are available.

link

Rick

cfielitz10 Apr 2013 9:29 a.m. PST

Ral Partha 15mm fantasy figures.

photocrinch Supporting Member of TMP10 Apr 2013 9:32 a.m. PST

Great Endeavors also has the molds for the condotieri lines, though not listed specifically on his webstore, he has cast up some for me in the past.

Personally I'd like to see all of the Tom Meier sculpted Ral Partha Orcs, Goblins and Elves back in production.

Tom Reed10 Apr 2013 9:36 a.m. PST

Are Mikes Models still being produced? The local guys had a ton of them for 15mm TSATF gaming. I had a Mikes Models Norman army for Tactica.

vojvoda10 Apr 2013 9:48 a.m. PST

Crusader Roman Republic.

VR
James Mattes

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP10 Apr 2013 9:54 a.m. PST

Add 15mm Heritage ACW to the list.

Royal Air Force10 Apr 2013 10:15 a.m. PST

I was aware that the Ral Partha figs are still available, I just wish I could get some other figs that would match up with them. My Pathans could use a little variety

Tommy2010 Apr 2013 10:24 a.m. PST

Game Tech Space 1889 gunboats.

myxemail10 Apr 2013 10:30 a.m. PST

I second the nod for Dragontooth. I also like the old Heritage napoleonettes in 15mm. Need to flesh out a few units. In the old days I wasn't doing much in 25mm except for the Ral Partha fantasy stuff.

Royal Air Force10 Apr 2013 10:58 a.m. PST

I second the SGOM miniatures

jpattern210 Apr 2013 11:00 a.m. PST

Ooh, yeah, Game Tech, too.

Personal logo Doctor X Supporting Member of TMP10 Apr 2013 11:07 a.m. PST

Dragontooth
Der Kriegspieler Lord of the Rings range
Ral Partha Tom Meier Goblins. Best ever made IMHO. I would buy hundreds more if still available.

religon10 Apr 2013 11:18 a.m. PST

The Grenadier Andrew Chernak undead cavalry.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP10 Apr 2013 11:38 a.m. PST

Maybe I should have just said all of the old Heritage 15s, not just the ACW range.

Kropotkin30310 Apr 2013 11:47 a.m. PST

Der Kreigspeiler and Heritage fantasy lines are available. Get in touch with Michael at Classic Miniatures and send him an e-mail. I got a load of figures I never thought I'd see again. Fantasy only I'm afraid chaps.

classicminiatures.net

rick3210 Apr 2013 11:56 a.m. PST

FAA 20mm Vietnam range. I sold mine and regretted it since they are no longer available.

Another vote for Polly Oliver 15mm AWI

Patrick R10 Apr 2013 12:14 p.m. PST

Qualiticast

The Space 1889 ships

Citadel Eternal Champion range

Timmo uk10 Apr 2013 1:16 p.m. PST

Polly Oliver AWI range or if Dave Ryan is reading how about re doing the Minifigs 15mm AWI range adding the most useful march attack pose for all codes then adding some.

So far the Polly Oliver range is the most lamented.

rampantlion10 Apr 2013 1:52 p.m. PST

Ral Partha Imports, specifically their romans.

boy wundyr x10 Apr 2013 3:14 p.m. PST

Goblintooth's 1/300 WWI a/c – the least fiddliest to put together, not counting Shapeways.

Gear Pilot10 Apr 2013 4:56 p.m. PST

FASA Star Trek ships.

evilgong10 Apr 2013 5:27 p.m. PST

Minifigs VFW range.

David Brown

TBeyer10 Apr 2013 5:28 p.m. PST

Since I am more into fantasy than historical, mine are:
1. Chronicle miniatures (Nick Lund)
2. Old Citadel figures (Fantasy Tribe orcs, dwarves, skellies, all the pre-slotta ranges like half-orcs, oriental orcs and hobgoblins, etc.)
3. Old Glory fantasy orcs and dwarves (the range that they came out with before their Ghost miniatures range), still some of my favorite orcs
4. Ral Partha Tim Meier orcs and goblins – I have a bunch of the regular troops but need more command figures!
5. I am hesitant to add Dragontooth – they had some great concepts like the Amphibians vs. the Saurids or whatever those were (they had chariots, giant lizards with howdahs, crocodile men, fish men, saurids riding lizards) but really a lot of their sculpts were pretty dire, some were just barely-formed lumps! They did have some cool giants and dragons.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP10 Apr 2013 5:48 p.m. PST

Bring back Dragontooth and let the market decide which sell and which don't!
Those Saurians were fantastic!

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP10 Apr 2013 5:52 p.m. PST

In my not so humble opinion, anyone in possession of usable molds who is not cranking out figures deserves to … never be successful in their March Madness brackets!
There! I said it!

You know, "crude" does not really equal "bad".
Heritage or whoever had some goofy Frog Roman Legionaries and they were crude, but I loved them.

Dan 05510 Apr 2013 6:17 p.m. PST

Maybe I should have just said all of the old Heritage 15s, not just the ACW range

Yup.

Tommy2010 Apr 2013 7:01 p.m. PST

boy wundyr x:
Goblintooth's 1/300 WWI a/c

…and their Thunderball range! Divers, harpoon guns, sharks, and the atlitu… er DEPTH stands!!!

Jeigheff10 Apr 2013 7:11 p.m. PST

I miss the Der Kriegspieler's 25mm "Continentals" too. The range had a lot of really nice figures. It's a shame that it was never completed.

I used to own a handful of Yucca 15mm World War II Germans, and foolishly let go of them years ago. The few I owned were really kind of nice, in their own way. It looks like Yucca 15s are gone for good too.

Not everyone is going to agree with me on this one, and I confess to having mixed feelings myself. But I'm going to mention them anyway: Peter Laing 15mm figures. They were pretty crude, that's true. But I liked 'em anyway.

Dragon Gunner10 Apr 2013 10:22 p.m. PST

Kriss and the Flame 15 mm

Dexter Ward11 Apr 2013 2:34 a.m. PST

Metal Magic 25mm Asterix range

korsun0 Supporting Member of TMP11 Apr 2013 5:04 a.m. PST

Minifigs 15 mm ancient strips….

Who asked this joker11 Apr 2013 6:41 a.m. PST

Ral Partha Battle System. 15mm and 25mm.

doublesix6611 Apr 2013 9:10 a.m. PST

I'm lucky because Warzone/Mutant chronicles would have been on my list but it is being re-released :)

vojvoda11 Apr 2013 9:31 a.m. PST

I cant believe no one has spoken up for Naismith line if true 15mm figures. I love those and still have a ton of different periods.

VR
James Mattes

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP11 Apr 2013 6:58 p.m. PST

The Naismith 25mm Aztec line was pretty good too.

I liked the Citadel line of Dark Ages figures. Normans, Vikings, Byzantines, etc.

jpattern211 Apr 2013 7:51 p.m. PST

I am hesitant to add Dragontooth . . . They did have some cool giants and dragons.
The giants and dragons are exactly the sculpts I'd want re-released. Plus the Saurians and Amphibians. And some of the others.

Tom Loback sculpted in molten wax, which explains a lot of the lumpiness of some of the sculpts. They had a lot of character, though.

I know that, in the past, several miniature companies have contacted Tom, interested in re-releasing the sculpts. Each time he's said no, though. He has lost all interest in the miniatures market, but he also doesn't want to relinquish control of the masters. Darn it all!

Mike at Work 212 Apr 2013 9:51 p.m. PST

Ral Partha Battlesystem. I love the fact I can customize the weapons in hand…
RP AD&D line in general too

Ragbones13 Apr 2013 1:51 p.m. PST

I second the regret that those loveable, lumpy 15mm Mike's Models are no longer available. I've read that the original molds – with the possible exception of the Renaissance line – where "thrown out" or destroyed, possibly by Essex when they acquired them. I have a couple thousand painted Mike's: Zulus, Dervish, Ansar, Egyptian, Sikh, and British from the Colonial line; and Teutonic Knights, Lithuanians, Prussians, Novgorodian Rus, Mongols, and sundry other foot and mounted figures from the Feudal and Medieval lines. I even have a Mike's siege tower and covered ram. For whatever reason I find them to have a lot of character. Perhaps it's because I'm short and lumpy, too.

stormchaser17 Apr 2013 5:42 p.m. PST

Loved the Falcon line of minis and Parthas. I also wish I would have bought more of the 15mm Yucca Chetniks when I had the chance.

I decided about a month ago that I would plan a mega TSATF game for sometime this upcoming winter. Breaking out all the old Parthas, Falcons, MInifigs and homecast non-descript, clunky, poorly painted figs that I started gaming with in the 80's.

Personal logo piper909 Supporting Member of TMP22 Apr 2013 10:26 a.m. PST

Some of the old Archive line, like that pumpkin-headed Bugbear. The Heritage LOTR Orcs, I still use what I have of these.

But most of all, old Ral Partha elves and dwarves, esp. Elves. I lost so much of my old collection to "lead rot" (poor casting control or bad alloy? I had/have this problem more with Ral Partha minis than any one else).

efredbar21 May 2013 5:31 p.m. PST

Minifigs S Range, 20mm colonials.

138SquadronRAF22 May 2013 11:38 a.m. PST

AIM 10mm Napoleonics: British, French and Austrians.

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