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28 Jul 2018 8:12 p.m. PST
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Militia Pete03 Apr 2013 7:12 a.m. PST

If you purchase the 28mm Old Glory British command pack for AWI you get a handful of these chaps.
What do you do with them?
1) Give to the kids to paint
2) Paint and put in your command unit
3) Paint them then group them together to make a unit for the regiment.

I am leaning toward 3.

John the OFM03 Apr 2013 7:16 a.m. PST

3)
If you play skirmish games, it's easy to find a use for them.
"Sergeant Jenkins! Take some men and chop that abatis over there!"
"Sah!"

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP03 Apr 2013 8:02 a.m. PST

Absolutely #3. Very useful chaps in the wilderness.

Disco Joe03 Apr 2013 8:29 a.m. PST

I totally agree with 3.

epturner03 Apr 2013 8:42 a.m. PST

2 and 3.

Eric

Supercilius Maximus03 Apr 2013 9:05 a.m. PST

At the time of the AWI there was no official number of pioneers within an infantry battalion; in fact, not all regiments even had them, and it seems to have been simply a question of utilising men with previous training in either military or (more often) civilian life.

In the 18th Century, it was the norm on the march to group all the pioneers together at the head of the column (usually at the head of the grenadiers and/or just behind the light infantry acting as the advance guard). So option 3) is the best bet, and you could justifiably paint them in the facings of as many regiments as you have pioneers. If a regiment had enough, they would normally be under the command of a corporal; otherwise, I suspect an engineer officer would take charge of them.

In larger armies, quite often the pioneers of all the battalions in each brigade would march at the head of that brigade so that their skills were spread throughout the column in order not to cause delays if, say, a bridge collapsed when half the army had already crossed.

IronDuke596 Supporting Member of TMP03 Apr 2013 9:25 a.m. PST

I agree withy Eric 2 & 3. I use pioneers for my War of 1812 games; dismantling/constructing bridges, knocking down rail fences and abatis etc.

Grand Duke Natokina03 Apr 2013 11:03 a.m. PST

We are discussing this problem in our WWII gaming. What simple tasks do you get the engineers to perform. We don't want to spend the entire game building a Bailey Bridge--only to find a ford 9 inches downstream.

Rudi the german03 Apr 2013 4:07 p.m. PST

4) paint them and keep them untill you switch to a ruleset were pioneers are needed.

:)

epturner03 Apr 2013 4:24 p.m. PST

And if any of you have pioneers and you don't want them, please, I'll take good and loving care of them…

Particularly if they are ready to chop through any Doodle abatis or redoubts.

grin

Just trying to help, any way I can…

Eric

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