"An extra GREEN die at range 1?" Topic

Hey all,

Okay, I know that some folk have said that their games of xwing become a huge scrum in the center of the board…

So what if, rather than getting an extra attack die at range one, the defender actually got an extra defense die, like at range three?

This might encourage ships to keep a little distance.

Fluff wise, you could just say that being at too close of a range makes it harder for an aiming pilot to adjust as targets make high speed jukes.

Then, if you want, you could add one red die to range 2 (that sweet spot of giving aimers enough time to compensate for dodges but not too far) and even get rid of the green die for super long range.

Does this sound like it might make a difference?

Sounds interesting. Might give it a try.

Ships that overlap bases lose their 'action' for the turn and are limited in who they can shoot.

So there are rules already in place to discourage bunching up.

I think things become a scrum in the middle because players are trying to use tight turns to set up shots/avoid shots, not because anyone's actually trying for range 1 shots. Introduce better tactics, and the problem will likely solve itself.

An alternative might be instead of giving a ship an extra green at range 1 to simply rule that any ship touching another ship's base gives up the range 1 attack die advantage against its alternative target (the pilot is too busy dodging to set up the best shot). That might encourage a more open field.

A lot of the scrum effect (SE) is due to the time limits in tournaments. I am pretty sure better tactics with more time is the best answer, but I will give it a go and see how it plays out.

VR
James Mattes

All dogfight games cluster in a scrum at points, it's the nature of the fight.

I like to play a fame of more tactical maneuver, drawing the opponent off into an unexpected chase through the asteroids, and then circling around, flipping, and and closing the net. But even still, once the net closes, there's typically a repeated series of scrums.

as a home rule we only give the shooter an extra attack dice at range one is if they are tailing the ship they are shooting at.

Oh, I like that… I might do something like that… maybe you only get the +1 if you are not in the enemys fire arc?

I have not run into this 'scrum' yet.

Rules works fine for us so far…

We think the rules work great how they are. We just like to tweek them a bit and see how game turn out.

There generally is a "scrum" for a bit, but then all the ships move out of it and get more space between them and the fight proceeds normally. But Check Your Six and many other flying games do much the same. It's the nature of air combat…

I don't think ANYTHING needs to be changed in the game. It works perfectly as is for us.