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Brownbear01 Apr 2013 11:22 a.m. PST

So what's the opinion about the most interesting roman army from wargamers point: which had the most different opponents, the worst ennemies, the best army, the nicest dress to paint, the best battles to recreate, the most inspiring generals etc etc.
BeforeI forget, of course, the most available figure range is also a point.

Caesar01 Apr 2013 11:43 a.m. PST

Republican Roman has got the most variety in opponents.

Lord Raglan01 Apr 2013 11:44 a.m. PST

IMHO EIRs tick all the boxes with its stereotypical look and a huge range of enemies to fight against including other Romans.

Aventine is simply the best range of 28mm Romans available on the market.

Raglan

Mollinary01 Apr 2013 11:51 a.m. PST

Republican Roman, around the end of the third, beginning of the second century BC. Carthaginians, Gauls, Italians, Macedonians, Successors, Spaniards. Great!

Mollinary

LEGION 195001 Apr 2013 12:03 p.m. PST

IMHO,from early Repubilcan to late Roman. Alot of enemies to go around and different fighting styles with the Legions! Mike

Yesthatphil01 Apr 2013 12:11 p.m. PST

Middle Imperial/Aurelianic … still fundamentally Roman but gets to fight against all the stylish opponents

DeanMoto01 Apr 2013 12:56 p.m. PST

I like EIR (the only Romans I have), for the reasons stated previously above. Although that said, I've had numerous enjoyable games in the past pitting my Successors against my buddy's Rep. Romans. Dean

chriskrum01 Apr 2013 1:01 p.m. PST

EIR. They fight everyone. Including themselves.

vojvoda01 Apr 2013 1:07 p.m. PST

Late Republic Romans as they can fight each other when no other enemy is on hand.

VR
James Mattes

Cardinal Hawkwood01 Apr 2013 1:30 p.m. PST

Twilight of the West I like my Roman armies German

mbsparta01 Apr 2013 1:31 p.m. PST

Mollinary is spot on … The "middle" Republican Roman army offers the most interesting array of opponents.

Although I have 2 Caesarian Roman armies, a large EIR army and the start of an early Roman army, by far the most fequently used army I own is the Middle/Polybian Republican Romans … Mostly beacuse of the wide variety of cool historical enemies.

Mike B

Cardinal Hawkwood01 Apr 2013 1:41 p.m. PST

Goths aren't cool enemies? or Hunz?

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Supporting Member of TMP01 Apr 2013 1:46 p.m. PST

I like the Late Roman army from about 300AD to 410AD. It is still powerful, but not quite the world beater as it was in days of yore.

My second choice would be for the Punic Wars era.

Big Red01 Apr 2013 2:02 p.m. PST

Macedonian and Punic Wars.

Personal logo BigRedBat Sponsoring Member of TMP01 Apr 2013 2:26 p.m. PST

I'm collecting them all, but have a real soft spot for Middle Imperial; they have everything the Early Imperials have, but blingier. And plenty of competant foes…

brevior est vita01 Apr 2013 6:17 p.m. PST

My favorite period in Roman military history is the Late Republic. Armies are built around tough-as-nails professional legionaries, leavened with a wide assortment of interesting allies and mercenary auxiliaries.

Foes include Numidians, Celtiberians, Gauls, Germans, Britons, Pontics, Armenians, Parthians, Cilician pirates, Ptolemaic Egyptians, revolting slaves and allies, and of course other Romans!

The personalities involved are some of the biggest in history, including Marius, Sulla, Crassus, Pompey, Caesar, Brutus, Cassius, Antony and Octavian, not to mention Jugurtha, Mithridates VI, Tigranes, Spartacus, Ariovistus, Cassivellaunus, Vercingetorix, Surena, and Cleopatra.

Naturally, YMMV. In the end, it is very much a matter of personal interest and preference.

Pictors Studio01 Apr 2013 7:36 p.m. PST

I think the Late Roman army is the most interesting to play. While the opponents are not as diverse as some of the earlier ones, as noted, the army itself is much more diverse. You have a variety of cavalry that can be fielded and your infantry can range from some crappy levy subject allies to some pretty tough foot guard.

ancientsgamer02 Apr 2013 10:29 a.m. PST

For sheer variety of shield patterns and uniforms, you would have to go Late Roman period. I prefer Trajanic period myself but have to admit that you don't get much in the way of variety in this period. The Late Period gives you all the barbarian European and Asian armies to fight as well as the Middle Eastern armies. You could also do a what if against one of the Chinese armies.

For inspiration, Trajan or Caesar I would fit the bill…. Aetius was pretty inspirational too, though. If you count Byzantium as being Roman (they sure thought of themselves as such!), Belizarian period is really tough to beat.

Lewisgunner02 Apr 2013 10:54 a.m. PST

Late Roman has the advantage of a wide variety of troop types and particularly good cavalry. Also it has interesting enemies as doe mid republican. Imperial, early and mid is oo dominated by legionaries nd has less in the way of interesting enemies.

Fat Wally03 Apr 2013 1:16 p.m. PST

Middle Imperial Roman. Coping with the 3rd Century crisis and an army and Roman world in transition. Most fascinating.

HussarSSI26 Jun 2013 6:09 a.m. PST

I agree with Lord Raglan

IMHO EIRs tick all the boxes with its stereotypical look and a huge range of enemies to fight against including other Romans.

IMHO I do like Foundry EIR figures

WillieB26 Jun 2013 8:12 a.m. PST

I'm biased but Late Roman by a wide margin. Innumerable enemies that are 'almost' the same quality as the Roman troops.
Emphasis shifting from infantry to cavalry.
Excellent figure ranges in a variey of scales.
No longer the 'uber' army but still packing a good punch if you play it right.

Dexter Ward27 Jun 2013 2:10 a.m. PST

Personally I find the guys who built the Roman Empire the most inspiring – so early Republicans (Pyrrhus and the Macedonian and Punic Wars) and late Republicans (Caesar, Pompey, Crassus, Brutus figthing Gauls, Parthians, Numidians, Macedonians, Germans, and each other).

cytaylor28 Jun 2013 8:38 a.m. PST

Early through late republic have lots of opponents, including each other – Marius, Sulla, Sertorius, Ceasar Pompey, etc. Later Romans vs Huns, Goths, Sassanids, and each other also very interesting into the Byzantine periods. The EIR and Mid Imperial period has Dacians, the Palmyran thing, and holding the boundaries of the empire against Germans and Goths. I have Rep Romans and Late Romans, but no EIR. The Aventine figs are terrific, but I don't have as much interest in that period. Maybe I don't know as much about the history of that period. What campaigns and adversaries did they have?

Bolingar08 Jul 2013 7:28 a.m. PST

Syagrian Roman

My own concoction, based on research into the hypothetical state of of the military in the enclave of Syagrius in the late 4th century. A mixture of a few good units (residual legions) plus indifferent garrison troops and raw recruits. Interesting mix.

Based on Procopius' description of Western 'Roman' units in the 6th century, plus some educated guesswork and archaeology – continued military occupation of Roman fort of Le Yaudet in Brittany for example.

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