"any Scottish rebellion 28mm figs?" Topic

I'm after some scots of the period to purchase as a birthday present. anyone know where i can get them cheap?

I don't recognise the term – which peiod is this?

Which scottish rebellion?

EBob has some very nice medieval sets.

Hm, yes, which one? I suppose the Jacobite Rebellion is out of the question given the selected boards. Perhaps the Reformation crisis (1559–60) link? In which case Pendraken link or Foundry link come to mind. Also check these other TMP posts link.

Border Reivers maybe?

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Or Medieval?

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Or even Jacobites….

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Not sure about what your definition of cheap is, but some of my favorite figures for the wars of Wallace and Bruce are from Scheltrum Miniatures. Sholto (the owner) is one of the nicest people you could ever meet as well.

Allen

Hmm, i was a bit vague wasn't i…

I guess I mean the Battle of Bannockburn as part of the Wars of Scottish Independence. You know, the one with the schiltrons :-)

Are there some 28mm plastic kits that could be used as stand ins for Scots of this period?

Couple of things…the term 'schiltrom' does not refer to a particular shape, it just means a body of close-combat infantry. Falkirk is the sole example of a Scottish army deploying in circular formations, though Moray deployed part of his command in that manner for one of the actions of 23rd June 1314. The only 14C. writer to use the term in relation to Bannockburn is Barbour, who uses it to describe the English army.
There is some very nice stuff about these days – David Imrie's claymore Castings – though marketed as being for Otterburn are perfectly sound for the W of I.
Ebob's Scottish pikemen/spearmen are nice, but the 'rebellion' range in general is not suitable unless you want to play scenes from 'braveheart'.
Scottish and English troops – MAA, spearmen and archers – were indistinguishable from one another throughout the medieval period and any decent early HYW figures will be suitable..Foundry does a nice pack of men-at-arms as I recall.
Most of the actions (by a big margin)were clashes between men-at-arms with no infantry at all, which makes for small, but interesting (and very colourful) wargames.
Scalacronica – written by a participant in the second war of independence – is a great source of information and I think an English translation is available on the wibbly wobbly web.
The Perry 28mm plastics are way too late for Bannockburn etc, but will do nicely for mid-15th C. Scots.
Also…it's not really a rebellion unless you are an English nationalist.

Chris, I have some of the Claymore Castings figs, but I think that some of them are too late to be used for Wars of Independence. The open faced bascinet is just starting to make an appearance and would most likely be used by the knights well before the infantry would get it (IMHO). I dont even plan on using the open faced bascinet for my Scottish or English armies for circa 1314 as I like the great helms better for this time period. There is certainly some debate for the early visored bascinet or open faced bascinet at this time period, and I may include a more "modern" helm for some of my wealthy English earls for Bannockburn. Some of the Claymore figures are perfect though and I have a fair number of them. BTW, really enjoyed your Scottish Knights book and am also enjoying your Bannockburn release.

Allen

Glad you are enjoying them. You'll find several references to people buying bacinets (basnets) from 1305-ish and thee is a marginalia drawing circa 1295-ish of a visored bacinet, though at that point (in my view) it would be quite a rarity – possibly why someone chose to make a drawing.
Virtually all of the Claymore figures are great for 1300 onward and especially for the 1330s-40s; bear in mind that at that period the Scottish-English war is the venue for 'best practice', which is why so may people from France/Belgium/Holland/Germany take part….the defeat of the Count of Namur's party at Edinburgh being a good example.

Interesting stuff Chris, thanks.