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jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Mar 2013 5:01 p.m. PST

Gents

just to advise i will be releasing a new range of 28mm

Mayans and Conquistadors at Salute 2013..the range will

eventually cover all of Mesoamerica from about 1520 onwards

further information to be posted soon

regards

Ged

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WarWizard06 Mar 2013 5:41 p.m. PST

wow that sounds great!

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP06 Mar 2013 6:11 p.m. PST

I find it amazing that the only 25/28mm Mayans EVER were from Naismith Design.
Since they are almost impossible to find now, this is a good sign.
Naismith also had the first Aztecs, but there have been a few more Aztecs since, but oddly no Mayans.
Naismith were fantastic figures of a truly spectacular looking army.
It's good to know that Mayans are available again.

I hope they do well.

The Dozing Dragon06 Mar 2013 6:22 p.m. PST

Can't see pics from work (if indeed there is a pic!) but looking forward to seeing these. Agreed with John re the Naismith ones – a real shame all those ranges disappeared.

altfritz06 Mar 2013 7:10 p.m. PST

Bears Den (I think) have Mayans as well, IIRC. And Eureka had some, but unreleased.

Rudi the german06 Mar 2013 7:26 p.m. PST

I will buy some for sure.

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Mar 2013 11:53 p.m. PST

thanks for the support Gents i will upload some pics

as soon as im able…..you can see one pic on leadadventure

forum of five painted sample Huatec Mayans……..

regards

Ged

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LorenzoMele07 Mar 2013 2:53 a.m. PST

Excellent news, thanks

@ John OFM: Outpost has a gorgeous Maya range in 28mm.

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP07 Mar 2013 3:13 a.m. PST

Gents

foe those on facebook you can see a picture under

my personal facebook page "gerard cronin"

this depicts the first five Mayans fully painted

in all their glory!

regards

Ged

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Geoff B07 Mar 2013 4:22 a.m. PST

Ive not seen too many figures like this before.These look great Ged!

Cerdic07 Mar 2013 4:55 a.m. PST

This is good news. I've looked at Gringo 40s beautiful 40mm figures at shows and wished they were 28s…

WarWizard07 Mar 2013 11:13 a.m. PST

don;t do facebook.

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP07 Mar 2013 3:03 p.m. PST

will sort out pics warwizard………regards

Ged

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jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP13 Mar 2013 5:30 a.m. PST

Gents

just received a load of new Mayan greens will post some pics

once i get some photos of the finished figs

regards

Ged

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cp models13 Mar 2013 6:09 a.m. PST

Gringo 40's new Mayans

Painted by Andrew Taylor

Looks like the start of a very exciting range

Mark

GOTHIC LINE MINIATURES14 Mar 2013 10:30 a.m. PST

Amazing figures and amazing paint job!!!!
Whats next!!!???

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP14 Mar 2013 10:47 a.m. PST

thanks Gothic…….basically a load more Mayans

and conquistadors and a few suprises!!

watch this space

regards

Ged

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Sidney Fiddler17 Mar 2013 3:46 p.m. PST

Good job, old mate.

colin knight18 Mar 2013 1:58 a.m. PST

I can see some very nice Impetus bases for these.

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP19 Mar 2013 10:19 a.m. PST

cheers Sydney good on ya!!

Colin i agree impetus would suit for sure

regards

Ged

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jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP20 Mar 2013 4:37 a.m. PST

Gents

just to advise the first of the conquistador greens arrived
yesterday and are now with Griffin…….for hopefull release at Salute 2013. will advise nearer the date

a swathe of Spanish conquistador equipment underway as well

regards
Ged

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Sidney Fiddler26 Mar 2013 2:39 a.m. PST

Shown them to my old mucker Bobby "main man " Davro.
He thinks there blinding.

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP29 Mar 2013 8:55 a.m. PST

Sidney

if Bobby's happy so am i!

regards
Ged

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Bowman30 Mar 2013 9:13 p.m. PST

Ged, no one is happier about a new Mayan range, than myself. A few comments if I may:

1) I'm not aware of any pictorial or written evidence that the Maya went naked into battle. I think your sculptor is conflating them with the Huaxtecs of Central Mexico.

On the other hand, can you produce some basic warriors wearing the wrap around cotton corselet?

2) I'm glad you are producing some rectangular shields with the round ones. I'd prefer to see the "daisy-style" shield with the long fabric trails on the bottom and the top of the shield.

This design was used to entangle the enemy's weapons in close combat.

3) Also, instead of concentrating on an Aztec style Maquahuitl, how about the more typical Kukri-style "bat" weapon, used by the Maya?

A good example of that can be seen in the Heath book, Armies of the Aztec and Inca Empires, page 65.

I look forward to your Mayan line. I'll be buying some. Please PM me if you'd like to.

Bowman31 Mar 2013 5:21 a.m. PST

Here is a good illustration from a vase or cylinder. This is an exploded view:

picture

The warrior on the left has a simple rectangular shield. The others appear to have their shields adorned with streams of fabric coming from the top and bottom. Also note the cool skull glyph on the one shield.

The mid-right warrior has an "halab" which is an atl-atl spear thrower. Also note the thrusting spears with their distinctive "wrapping" near the obsidian tip.

Here are some simpler, unadorned round and rectangular shields, from another vase:

picture

Note the vertical holding brace on the larger shields.

Here is a plate showing a single noble warrior. It is difficult to see the details of his body, but his shield design is very clear:

picture

The fabric fastened to the top and bottom of his rectangular shield is evident.

Hope that provides you with some ideas.

Bowman31 Mar 2013 6:38 a.m. PST

Wow, how hard is it to Google for a specific Mayan weapon? Actually it's hard!! Googling "Mayan obsidian weapon" gets you a lot of fantasy BS, Aztec weapons, obsidian eccentrics, and not a lot of actual Mayan weapons.

Here is a portion of one of the frescoes at Chichen Itza:

picture

The lower left figure carries something that looks like a boomerang. This is actually the Mayan "bat", a small curved axe-like weapon. At the toe end, away from the hand, would be obsidian blades. These are missing from the painting.

Here is the other half of the same painting:

picture

The two warriors in the middle also carry bats. The painting is simple and stylized and the weapons also do not show the obsidian edging.

However, from all the artwork above, one can see that no one is actually naked.

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP01 Apr 2013 3:55 a.m. PST

Bowman

appreciate your time and effort. you are quite right the

Mayans are not well documented. i have an old book from

Russian with really old prints/drawings lifted from mayan

drawings and yes your right they did use sythe stlye bats

and swords for want of a better word…these will be

available for later figures.the Naked guy is Huaxtec btw!

as technically they were "mayan"…the daisy shields..

streamer shields were already in the mix//fear not!! as are

every weapon i can find info on. what we need is Ian Heath to

redraw some of the types shown above!! any scrap of info

welcomed as i will be doing other tribes rather then the

other two big players first …not decided yet. feel free

to e-mail me at gjmfigurines4@btinternet.com with any requests

or ideas im happy to look at/ commission these and ship

pics in !! great stuff.

best regards

Ged

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Bowman01 Apr 2013 8:10 a.m. PST

Ged,

PM and email sent!

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP02 Apr 2013 1:48 a.m. PST

Bowman

all received…many thanks

Ged
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jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP08 Apr 2013 3:01 a.m. PST

Gents

just to advise most of my new Mayans have now been posted
in my site under "28mm Mesoamerica"…the remaining sculpts
within a few days
site is gringo40s.com

regards
Ged
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